The Family

This is a yuuuuuuge popcorn thread. Now I see what @Nova has been saying about the Pharisees in the US. I can see why @Tracker likes Trump so much, he claims to be a christian, yet doesn't really act as a Christian. This group basically is the evangelical community. They pull the strings in Washington especially within the religious right, but not exclusively. The documentary is a bit long and they do try to take you down a certain road, but I'll let you draw your own conclusions. I've heard of the National Prayer Breakfast, but I've never payed much attention to it. This should be fun!

I've read the Jeff Sharlet book it's based on, and they're some scary folks. Absolutely no respect for the Constitution.

It doesn't seem that way.

I saw this was an option yesterday morning when I was scrolling through Netlix choices but figured it was one of these "speculation" shows like the UFO/alien shows. I've never heard of this "family" group.
It might be interesting though to check out - I might start watching it tomorrow morning about this time.

It's a little more than speculation.

Except for the fact that I detest Donald Trump. I do like several of the policies he has advanced but I find him personally detestable.

I will find out tomorrow morning then.

many people feel the same way it seems. I wouldn't want to work for him that's for sure.

But not so detestable that you will work to see that he's defeated in 2020.

If he is replaced by another Republican I'm fine with that. Eager in fact. But no sane person would choose one of the current Democratic candidates.

But you're not going to do anything to support William Weld's primary challenge to Trump. So, no matter how much you claim to find Trump detestable, you really don't. You just like to claim it so you can feel better about yourself.

What makes you think I haven't sent Weld a contribution already?

Elizabeth Warren would make a fine President. Biden would be . . . okay, in a caretaker sort of way. Beto O'Rourke would be interesting and I would vote for him over Trump for DAMN sure.
Hell, I'd vote for you over Trump, the orange moron is so bad . . .

Because you're a combination of poor and a Trump bootlicker?

Because he's firmly in the pro-abortion camp, and we all know that there's nothing you hate more than abortion. https://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Bill_Weld_Abortion.htm

You are correct. But I have sent letters urging Republicans like John Kasich to run for president.

Which means nothing to them. So again, all you've done are meaningless token gestures that have no hope of changing anything, but allow you to pretend that you're doing something.

You never know. I wrote letters in 1998 urging Governor George W. Bush to run for president.

I later sent him letters in 2001 urging him to invade Iraq.

FTFY.
Only an idiot would think that the word of some nobody in the middle of nowhere would influence a major political figure. Especially when the political figure was someone who had already displayed those inclinations.

Every avalanche starts somewhere.

Not with you.

No one ever thought Gavril Princip would create the 20th century world either.

But he didn't write letters, he actually went out and did something. Which you never do. I can tell you exactly what happened with your letter: A low-level staffer opened it, skimmed it for the contents, then, possibly, ticked a box on a form which closest matched the contents of the letter, and it would wind up on a report in the form of a number that a higher level staffer would read. If that staffer thought that the total number for the particular category was of interest to the politician, he'd mention it to him. The politician almost certainly never saw your letter, and neither did anyone else in his organization, unless the politician had a policy of asking the staff to give him a sampling of those letters to read, or your letter was so insane that it was one of the "crank" letters staffers like to share amongst one another to have a good laugh about. Given that W was said to not be all that big on reading, and knowing the kinds of things that you write, the latter is almost certainly more possible than the former. I say this as someone who has worked for political campaigns in the past.

I'll wager I worked for a politicsl (presidential) campaign before you did.

Don't care.

He's no more detestable than most here on the left. At least he doesn't hate the country.

Probably true. But I would really like someone better as my president.

No, you wouldn't. At most, you'd like someone who was kinda different than Trump, but even so, you're not willing to do any of the real work needed to make that happen.

Don't be silly. He loves it and he's very effective at running it. I'll say hi for you on Thursday when I see him in New Hampshire.