The future of abortion in the US

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by Rimjob Bob, Jun 28, 2018.

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What will happen with abortion?

  1. Little will change

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  2. Roe will not be overturned, but the court will chip away at abortion rights gradually

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    50.0%
  3. Roe will be overturned, and many red states will outlaw abortion

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  4. Roe will be overturned, and the next Republican majority will outlaw abortion nationwide

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  5. Roe will be overturned, and SCOTUS will declare abortion unconstitutional

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  1. Dayton Kitchens

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    No offense garamet, but I have serious trouble believing that you and other abortion rights persons stay up nights worrying about women in Arkansas or Mississippi.
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  2. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    You can add that to the thousand and one things you know nothing about. :bergman:
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    Every last one of them is. There isn't a single Republican on the record supporting women's reproductive rights at least in the house though the Senate as a few hold outs. Those very few Senate holdouts still vote for the anti-Choice judge's though so who cares about them?

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/28/house-republicans-abortion-rights-680629
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    One day perhaps you will respond to a post of mine without a personal insult.
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    Soma OMG WTF LOL STFU ROTFL!!!

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    Why?

    It's not their fault their states are governed by throwbacks who wish they lived in a Leave it to Beaver rerun.

    Now, the first time a Republican congressman wants to get an abortion for his mistress and can't, then I'll reserve the right to laugh (at him, anyway). But why shouldn't we care about the rights of women in Arkansas or Mississippi?
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  7. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Your implication that I don't care about women in states other than my own is an insult. You'll have to do better.
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  8. Dayton Kitchens

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    IIRC you (among others) have been pretty quick to run down and insult states like Arkansas and various other southern states.

    Ignoring the point that the percentage of voters in those states are comprised by just about as many women percentage wise than voters in other more "enlightened" states.

    Without lots of female supporters, anti abortion rights politicians would not be elected in those states.

    Surely you understand that a good number of women are against abortion?
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    You are not the State of Arkansas, just one person. If I run you down, it's because you're your own worst enemy. Stop making everything about you.
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  10. Dayton Kitchens

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    Or you could just be mean.

    That said there are plenty of times Arkansas has been insulted with a very wide brush here at Worldforge.
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Rand outed himself as a latent dominionist during the presidential race. What little respect I had for his supposed implacable libertarianism evaporated when it turned out that his constrained government vision still had room for a big dose of "but God said...!"
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    that's because too many white women are indoctrinated into the same evangelical cult of political power as the guys are.

    I'll ridicule the fuck out of Arkansas, and Mississippi, and Alabama, GA, the Carolinas, LA TN, KY, WV, OK KS, NB, and not a few others. Because I know from having lived it that all y'all bitches have been seduced into a faux-Christianity that bows the knee to political power above all else. Jesus didn't call anyone to become political heavyweights that could force their preferred doctrines on the lives of those who did not arrive at them by faith. THAT is the way of the Pharisees, and that's exactly what conservative white evangelicalism is - 21st century Neo-Phariseeism. Not Christianity.
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  14. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    Ah the followers of Christ (supposedly) who can't comprehend that there are people in the world who have concern and compassion for people they don't know and have no direct personal involvement with.
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    Don't you (and others) routinely claim that anti abortion people do not actually care about unborn children?
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    No, the claim is that they do not care about post-birth kids who are in distress. But they do not say this in the assumption their opponents are heartless, but rather as an objective analysis of their policy positions.

    For one example, to a man the same people who profess to be "pro-life" also vote for dramatic reductions in SNAP funding and Medicaid funding, both of which are HIGHLY predicated on helping children living in poverty.

    Those votes drive the conclusion you mentioned.
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    Collins voted for Gorsuch, and she's not naive enough to believe he won't vote to overturn Roe no matter how often she lies about it.

    also, sadly, it is by no means certain that no Democrat will break ranks (Manchin, for example)
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  20. Dayton Kitchens

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    Once children are born they are of course the responsibility of the parents. It doesn't matter in the least whether they wanted the child or not. Responsibility does not have an out clause.
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    IOW, it's none of your business.
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    Dayton assumes all parts of areas like California are created equal. Central California and even the northern area within 90 minutes of the Oregon border are absolutely as red as any district in Texas. Same for upstate NY.
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    You can't trust Collins any further than you can throw her.
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    I'm aware of that. One of my teammates from high school has lived in that area for decades since he retired from the Air Force.
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Has he ever had an abortion? No? Then he's a sidebar to this thread. If you're bored with the topic, why are you still posting in this thread?
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  26. Dayton Kitchens

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    I still post as long as people reply to my previous post or negative rep any of my previous posts.
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  27. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    So post something on the topic.
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    Not the way I see it.
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    :bye:
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    You sure spend a lot of effort to kick someone out of discussions.
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