The god of Liberty is a hungry god. Child Sacrifice Uvalde edition. [UNLV Update]

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  1. Nyx

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    Yep. If Jesus really was the son of God, and he didn't die on a cross in ancient Roman times, it sure would be nice if he would show up and clarify a great many number of things. Things are kind of going all to shit down here, and the people who claim to work in his name are just murdering a fuckload of his other children so they can amass wealth and power. Seems like the wrong direction to take, if you ask me.

    That's why I stopped being one. I could not work out the massive inconsistencies between what conservative Christian leaders were telling me, and what I had actually read and learned from the Bible. When you're raised in it, you take what you're told for granted, and you trust that authority, but there comes a point where you have to take a look at it objectively and ask "is this my faith, or is it the faith of my parents?"
     
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    Now that is a plan that would make me vote for trump if he were god's opponent. From the biblical tree of philosophy I could get no comfort in that idea.

    This is why I would say I was a lucifarian (not satanist) if the abrahamic faith were to be true. At least the choice between knowledge and eternal bliss would be one where you would accept pains like this for understanding and knowledge. Ignorance is bliss for a reason, and that is you are ignorant of pain. Knowledge includes knowledge of loss. Given the choice I would chose knowledge.

    That puts the abrahamic tree in an area where god tortures his creations with pain to find the ones that will beg him to be ignorant because it hurts too much. If that is the case, thanks for the fucking apple and where is the ticket booth for hell?
     
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    It is interesting how in many areas of christian philosophy it rationalizes good deeds fairly well. I am not saying it is a gem, but there are some good explanations of good things being the creator of a good environment so to say. Throughout all the indoctrination, preaching, and activities to promote these ideas none of it got through to a very large bunch of the abrahamic faith.

    I did not grow up fully in any religion so other people would have to speak on this. What the fuck do they do week after week for a couple of hours on a sunday? Doesn't the priest talk about the simple things?
     
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    Also, the Right tends to reject "God helps those who helps themselves" when it comes to, say, climate change (we have to just trust that God has a plan and will fix it for us!) or COVID (sure, we have a whole bunch of tools to fight the pandemic, but we shouldn't use them because we should let God take care of it).
     
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    Or if you're a black man who becomes president fair and square.
     
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    I don’t know if this has been posted here before but this to me was the most enlightening analysis of the Right/Republican Party in a long time.
     
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    Yep.
    None of their hypocritical contradictions make sense unless glued together with white supremacy.
     
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  8. Ancalagon

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    “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”
     
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  9. Nyx

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    Security cam footage from the school shows the police didn't even try to open an unlocked door that would have given them direct access to the shooter:

    Source: Police never tried to open door to classrooms where Uvalde gunman had kids trapped
    Source: https://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Uvalde-classroom-doors-17251116.php

    Hey, remember when they said they couldn't get into the rooms because the doors were locked? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
     
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    You mean they lied! I'm shocked, shocked I say.... no, of course I'm not. So I guess there's no need to pass a law making it a felony to prop open school doors and it calls into question the assertion that turning schools into prisons is the answer. It is going to be interesting to see how the right wing echo chamber and Uncle Albert counter this inconvenient factoid. :corn:
     
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    *Half black, as Sokar and his ilk liked to remind us :async:

    But boy howdy, they sure did lose their entire shit over that and never recovered.
     
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    I never figured out what weird things got twisted up in their brains to the point where they thought "well, Obama's only half Black!" was scoring some kind of point.

    Like, did they start out by convincing themselves that liberals hate white people, then proceed to "aha, well, I will demonstrate that Obama is part white, therefore you must hate him"?

    Did they latch so strongly onto it because seeing a Black man elected president broke them inside, and "well, he's half white, so maybe the part that made him successful was the white part" was a soothing balm?

    Or is there simply no logic that can be applied to the random shit that spews out of lunatic right-wingers' mouths?
     
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    Oh, I get their "logic." African-Americans, who are descendants of slaves, are "real" Blacks, even if they have some white blood, because both their parents were born in America. Obama's father, having been born in Kenya, means that he's not fully American, even though if someone had an American parent, and a British parent, folks wouldn't hesitate to call that person "American" if they had spent most of their life in America and had rejected British citizenship. Mind you, up until 2016, Boris Johnson had both UK and American citizenship. I don't think that prior to his having given up his US citizenship that too many of us Yanks would have thought of BoJo as an American. What with him having an accent and all.
     
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    More like people calling him the first black President when we know that’s not true, Bill Clinton was.
     
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    1993 called. They want their joke back.
     
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    That was a good decade before the boy was even an idea.
     
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    I don't get the joke, can you explain it for me?
     
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    Somewhere back when he was president some black person gave Bill a "black card" and called him the first black president as a compliment. The right reacted in a mocking fashion ever since. It just shows the boy thinks being black is bad.
     
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  19. Diacanu

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    It doesn't help that they only let ladder-kicking self-haters like Clarence Thomas into their little clubhouse.
     
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    Fun fact: this "joke" is a long twisted up quote from Toni Morrison, describing how much of his background lined up with the stereotypical black origin story--bastard child, poor, etc--and specifically how quickly those in power moved to get rid of him.

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1998/10/05/comment-6543

    But yanno, colonizers gonna colonize and took her words well outta context to the point of memery that idiots like the boy use unironically. :brood: Morrison came to hate that she ever wrote that for the same reasons Chris Rock retired his "Blacks versus Niggas" routine.
     
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  21. Steal Your Face

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    Explaining the joke ruins it. Try looking it up on Al Gore’s amazing internet.
     
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    Translation: if I explain it people would figure out I am a racist.
     
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    Bailey is not an American, so he has no context of what you're talking about, nitwit. :jayzus:
     
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    He’s a disingenuous douche who doesn’t argue in good faith and tries to play gotcha games. I’m done explaining anything to him.
     
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  25. Diacanu

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    *Mushroom cloud grows over the irony meter factory*
     
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    You assume he’s arguing in being disingenuous. Asking questions to ascertain the exact nature of the concept you are trying to convey is not disingenuous. And if the answers to those questions lead him to a certain conclusion that you did not expect does not mean he’s trying to play gotcha. It’s just a question about your original concept.

    If that bothers you, you probably ought to just go lock yourself in a room and stay off the internet.
     
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    Same texass mothers will vote the reps back in because women should be commanded by WASP men. Fuck texass moms until they stop fucking themselves by electing the rapist party. These fucking assholes elect the NRA and then think their kids won't be shot? I do believe pretty hate machine predicted this, or at least explained it simply that when you are commanded by money you get what you deserve. In this case guns have more right to life than you and your kids.

    Taske your right to life back and criminalize gun owners. Do not just take their guns away, throw them under the jail for their small limp dicks. 99.99 percent of gun owners are terrible people. there is a .00000001 percent of the guntard population that might be reasonable and good.
     
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    I don’t assume shit, I know it because he pulls this shit every time and I’m sick and tired of entertaining it. He has this inferior smug attitude like most of the people here and he thinks he’s got some kind of gotcha that he’s going to pull on me, I’m done playing his stupid games, it’s getting really old. This whole place is getting old.
     
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    Bend coming up, James Dean.

    I'd recommend the accelerator.
     
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