The H&I Star Trek Bitch and Moan Thread

Last night was the episode of Enterprise that I believe started this thread, TATV. I muted it.
I refuse to watch that episode anymore, I’d rather watch the worst episode of VOY than ever entertain that episode again. It’s an abomination and should be scrubbed from canon.

H&I is back to "CARETAKER" with VOYAGER tonight at 11 eastern. DS9 is in its last season now. And ENTERPRISE just started again from the beginning.

Even the bit with Kirk and Picard narrating at the very end?
Surely that can be saved.
Maybe tack it on to "Terra Prime".

The best parts is when the credits roll.

Which is on now.

Yeah I’ve been watching H&I a lot and I love their theme nights.

So when I was waiting on n Uber earlier, I happened to hear the DS9 theme from a neighbor. I’m not sure which one, but considering the time, it had to be H&I they were watching. That is all. Carry on.

Spock's Brain was just on.

Okay, so in Media Central, @Tuckerfan didn't know what H&I was, and he seemed unfamiliar with this thread, and I just skimmed through the whole thing, and he never took part in it.

What we have to figure out, is "why?".


Why would Tuckerfan exclude himself from a thread that's clearly so beloved by the whole community?
Is he anti-social?
Does he think we don't love him, because he doesn't love himself?
Was he sitting outside this thread the whole time, hugging his knees and crying, alone in the cold?

Why, Tuckerfan, why?
I'm genuinely worried about you.
Please feel better.

What's H&I again?

DS9 “Blaze of Glory’ was on the other day and it really made me realize what seems to be lacking from NuTrek. It’s the two different perspectives. We saw that a lot in old Trek, seeing things from both sides and basically allowing the audience to make up their own mind as to which side was right. Granted, the writers did try skew the audience in favor of the position of the captain/Starfleet/ the Federation, but they were also pretty good at making you see the other side of the argument. Discovery doesn’t really do this as much and when they do, they don’t do it very well. It’s usually all about Burnham being right and there is no other side or the other side is so mustache twirlingly wrong that you’re forced to side with Burnham. They’re getting better, but it still doesn’t quite achieve that level yet.

Another thing I like about that episode is the discussion over replicated food vs grown food. It’s just a normal conversation that you just don’t get in Discovery. I’d like to see more of that, but instead everything has to be Uber dramatic with people crying all of the time. This episode proves that you can have serious, somber moments with people reflecting on their past behavior without everyone breaking out in tears. The crew and the captain keep things professional whereas in Discovery Staments is about to burst at the seams apologizing to Tilly while Tilly is also about to bust out crying while accepting his apology. I mean how do these people function together as a crew when they’re constantly on the edge emotionally? Doesn’t Starfleet weed out this type of behavior? I don’t know of anyone who works in a stressful environment that if they behaved that way would las long at all, especially in a military type organization.

I came for the cookies....
I don't have an interest in yet another thread of Drunk Dayton's opinings on how to make trek great again

They just played the ENT episode "Strange New World".

I kinda helped write it.
The writer was in the Trek tech forum at TrekBBS asking me if/how debris could get in the transporter matter stream, and then bam, a guy gets leaves and twigs and rocks in his skin in a fucked up beam up.
Oh, no, that's okay, don't thank me in the credits.

They still had the ballcaps in this one.
Hey, yeah, WTF happened to the ballcaps?
They were pretty much gone by season 2.

Wasn’t much sun on board a spacecraft.

H&I is a TV channel? Why would you voluntarily watch Trek reruns with commercials, when there at least four streaming platforms you can watch it on without commercials? And you get to pick the episodes too.

Enterprise shouldn’t have had the transporter to start with. They should have introduced it later.

For me, because it’s on and there’s not much else I’d rather watch at the time. Also, I keep it on in the background while doing other things. If I want to watch a specific episode then I just go on Netflix.

I would've introduced it in "Daedalus" and have them be scared of the thing.

Perfect! I hate that episode though. I hate every episode where the "bad guy" could have just asked for help and would have gotten it, "but things were too urgent and we couldn't be sure you'd help us." I make an exception for the Binars because it's a good episode, but still it irritates me.

Oh, also on that night was "Endgame".

I was never really clear on what happened to alternate-future-Chakotay.
Did he die of a broken heart like Amidala, or did he blow his brains out with a phaser?
Or did he get a slower acting sadness-cancer?

ST: Picard needs to address what happened to regular-future-Chakotay sometime.
I don't think Beltran would mind if he died of sadness-cancer again cuz Seven dumped him.

Apparently Seven went all lesbian on him and he probably blew his brains out because of it.

No they don't.