The implosion of the Democratic Party thread

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  1. Bailey

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    In my neighbourhood there are large half acre blocks with single homes on them, along with dense townhouses. Our home is roughly in the middle.

    In local elections how much more should the vote of my neighbour on a large block count for versus mine? And then in turn, how much more should my vote count versus the vote of the townhouse residents across the street?

    If we should all be counted the same, then what is the threshold at which more land = more vote switches to being proper?
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    (By the way, I used the wrong term above. I should have said census tracts, which have about 4,000 people each. Drilling down to the block level would be needlessly complex. Also should have said plurality instead of majority, since some tracts have no majority ethnic group.)
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    Really great guy that @Federal Farmer and @Uncle Albert are getting their outrage orders from.

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  4. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    I think you nailed it a couple of weeks ago, chief, at least for me.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_partisanship
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    I agree. This first statement fits your posts to a T.
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  6. Tererune

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    I am pretty sure contrarian edgelord is pretty much what a libertarian is now. We still see them as a republican who thinks they are fooling the left.
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  7. Rimjob Bob

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    Dems losing voters of all races (Ryan Grim, The Intercept)

    Their policies on school closures, as well as culture war nonsense, are alienating working-class voters of all sorts. Elites vs working class lifestyles and values.
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    Liberals haven't claimed Bill Maher as one of us since before Bush left office.

    Fuck him. :shrug:
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    Bill is just a republican who was tossed out of the club for being a dick atheist. If he was a christian he would be at CPAC.
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  11. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    my riding encompasses maybe 15 sq km and has nearly 100 000 people in it.
    the riding of Timmins-James Bay is about 250 000 sq km and also has about 100 000 people in it.

    Both get one member of parliament to represent them federally.

    unless you're okay with some people only counting as say, 3/5s (or less)? In that case, carry on.
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  12. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    I see this comment got a lot of neg reps. What’s wrong lefties, don’t like the truth coming out?
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    So sayeth the elected lady empress of liberalism.

    Essentially this amounts to a No True Scotsman fallacy, another dodge on having to grapple with the actual points.
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    No, you're just a twat and we felt like reminding you of that.
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    Picking on the boy does tend to be common WF fodder. If there were an activities list that would be right up there with tldr repping my posts and referencing @steve2^4 's hatred of the twitter thing.
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    Can you find anyone other than righties and Maher himself claiming Maher is any sort of accurate representative of the left? Which lefties are taking their marching orders from him the way righties do with Carlson or Hannity? :shrug:
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  17. Bailey

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    I love how unaware you are that you basically just said that CRT is just history. :lol:
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  18. Bailey

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    I see that comment got a dump rep. What's wrong @Federal Farmer, don't like the truth coming out?
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  19. Steal Your Face

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    I love how you think you got me when in fact my initial post was pointing out that the left is lying about CRT.
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  20. Rimjob Bob

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    It doesn't matter either way. The topic here is about the failures of Democratic messaging and strategy. But since ad hominem has become standard practice for Leftforge, here we are again inquisiting the source instead of the content.

    You only want to take people seriously if they're "on your team?" You don't see how that's toxic and intellectually bankrupt?
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  21. steve2^4

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    Not when the other team watches Fox.
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  22. Rimjob Bob

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    So you're either on the side of the true and righteous progressive left, or you're a Fox News, Q-anon zombie? This is the dualism of the universe?

    :tbbs:
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  23. Fisherman's Worf

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    How so?
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  24. 14thDoctor

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    Sorry/not sorry, but the righties have been making bad faith arguments for years now, ever since amoral creeps like Newt Gingrich, Lindsay Graham, Jeff Sessions, and Mitch McConnell were shedding crocodile tears over the inexcusable "moral failings" of Bill Clinton getting a bj in the Oval Office and making speeches about "honour and integrity."

    You want us to take political analysis seriously, bring us some pundits with credibility. Don't just bring us Republicans in sheeps clothing insisting that the Democrats need to do exactly what the Republicans want because reasons. :shrug:
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  25. Rimjob Bob

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    I did. See the article just above my Bill Maher video that went unnoticed, perhaps because it involves actual reading.

    But I'll wait for you to tell me how Ryan Grim isn't liberal enough, so you can continue believing (apparently) that Dems and liberals have done everything perfectly and don't need to change.
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  26. mburtonk

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    I'm not really worried about the democrats. This is the same freakout that happens after every election.
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  27. Rimjob Bob

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    They're going to lose big in '22, and at the moment I'd bet on Trump's re-election in '24. This doesn't concern you?
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  28. Bailey

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    Gonna need you to show the working on this one.
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    I'm old enough to remember polls saying that any Democrat could beat W in '04. We all know how accurate those turned out to be.
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  30. Rimjob Bob

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    Biden and/or Harris won't have the benefit of terrorist boogeymen and military adventurism pushing them over the finish line.

    I think more likely we're looking at another Jimmy Carter 1980 moment.