The joys of government + health care.

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by Uncle Albert, Jul 29, 2013.

  1. Uncle Albert

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    What's to counter? Even if you didn't get private insurance subsidized through the "exchange," it doesn't negate the fact that other people can and will.
  2. tafkats

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    What kind of magic does it take to notice that, although roughly a quarter of New Zealanders are obese, we haven't heard anything about New Zealand deciding to deport 25% of its citizens? You'd think that would have made some headlines.
  3. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Third sentence: The short answer to any and all UA rants:

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  4. Uncle Albert

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    Never suggested they'd deport an actual citizen. Of more interest would be any other sort of punitive measure leveled against "unhealthy" citizens.
  5. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Oh, well, the point is that the exchange provided an option for less expensive private insurance than would have been available in the old system. That's less expensive, without a subsidy. That's a win for everyone in my book.
  6. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Oh, is that happening?
  7. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    B-but don't you see? Other people are getting cheaper access to something UA gets for free! How can you not see how unfair that is to him?

    About as often as UA getting struck by an asteroid...
  8. Captain X

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    Ah yes, we should never worry about trying to stop something from happening, only whine about it after it's started happening. :garamet:
  9. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Or you can try to, yanno, examine the data and draw a conclusion instead of :ohnoes:
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    Except no one here is panicking; they're simply pointing out the possibility which the precedence set by the OP shows.

    Incidentally, I find this amusing coming from a believer of AGW. :diacanu:
  11. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    A precedent for morbidly obese immigrants to NZ? Yes. Are you planning to emigrate?
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    Purposely obtuse again, I see. :rolleyes:
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  14. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Purposely not taking anyone seriously who doesn't understand why this one individual's story has no relevance to the ACA.

    If you're referring to the conversation between me and UA, the term used was "vouchers."
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    SSDD :rolleyes:
  16. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Between you and gul and others, yes. You and I were discussing vouchers.