The Official Unofficial Obama Administration Policy on Israel

Palestinians can do whatever they'd like to Israel. They can send in suicide bombers, whenever and wherever in Israel that they'd like. They can kill, maim, and destroy whomever, or whatever they'd like in Israel. They can demand, whatever piece of land in Israel they'd like. The Obama and his administration, will do and say nothing in these situations.

Israel, has the right to defend themselves, so long as they do not defend themselves. When they do defend themselves, The Obama will be angered and express that anger and demand "peace" talks.

Just sayin.

Post a link to the article!!

Post a link to anything. Seriously, where the fuck does this "Israel is the perfect child" bullshit come from? Is it the "God's chosen people" shtick? Then let their God defend them. Otherwise, I want to see the Jews sacrificing shit to us, because we will have become their God. No? It's not us? Then we have no reason to do that fucking job.

No Johnny, it has nothing to do with Jews, or Israel because a chosen people. It has strictly to do with a sovereign nation having the right to defend itself.

You need a link to refresh your memory on our nation's attitude and response each time it defends itself from the attacks by Palestinians?

I understand why the man child Dickanew needs one, but are you not intelligent enough to see the writing on the wall?

I'm just wondering why so many seem to feel that we're obligated to give a shit.

Indeed, all the while you are involved in each of the threads for this type of topic. One has to wonder.

I'm interested in the subject, not beholden to the country. Difference.

Well that's good to know. I don't see too many folks who are beholden to the country.

You mean the sovereign nation that was created by stealing land from other nations, and which has since then expanded by "colonizing" into Palestine's land illegaly?
I'm sorry, but I can't support the expansion of a country that keeps murdering and stealing under the excuse that it "deserves" to be sovereign. I say we let them prove just how sovereign they are, by themselves.

Perhaps you should bother to learn history before spouting this nonsense.

Then educate me.
Because all I've seen over the years is that Israel deserves none of the land it has acquired since the country was created.

^ Where do you want to start?

Historically, from archeological evidence the Jews were there long before Muslims even existed.

From a more modern perspective, the region had been ruled for hundreds of years by the Ottoman Turks and then the British. The countries that exist now did not exist as independent countries. The UN decided on the split of the land when British rule ended. They divided the land. That would have been the end, but fir the fact that they attacked Israel less than 48 hours after it was formed. They attacked numerous times since, including in 1967. Israel won those wars or there would be no Israel at all. The Arabs wanted to kill them all and totally destroy the country.

No other country in the world is held to the standard Israel is held to. No other country has been repeatedly attacked and then asked to give back what they captured.

The US is on land stolen from Mexico and the Native Americans. I don't hear too many calls for the US to return land.

Finally we come to the myth of land stolen from the Palestinians. They never had a land. Not ever. In fact, prior to Israel most of that area was inhabited by nomadic people's that moved around and were not permanent residents. They demand what they never had and act like it's fait acompli. In fact, as Israel captured the land from Egypt and Jordan the land should be returned to them if anyone. They don't want it. The situation is then more akin to the concept of eminent domain used here in the US than an occupation.

What is your definition of deserve? Do they deserve routine attacks and suicide bombers even at times when they are supposedly negotiating peace with the Palestinians?

Well,...if the Jews don't want Wyoming...

Hell they were there before Christians even existed.

Hey! We eventually paid Mexico a fair price for that land! And we gave the Injuns casnios and cigarettes free of taxes.

I call that even.

Please supply any modern example of a country being permitted to keep territory it conquered by force.

Please supply any modern example of a country being attacked repeatedly with the stated goal bring it's obliteration the way Israel has been.

You're creating artificial barriers and conditiond to support your bias and hate.

This is a disingenuous way to look at the Palestinian claim to what is now Israeli land. The fact is that during the conflict hundreds of thousands of Arabs living in present-day Israel either fled as war refugees or were forced out by the Israeli's. How can you deny that this land belonged to those refugees? Those were their homes that they can never go back to.
It's unrealistic to expect Israel to simply invite all these Arab refugees and their descendent back to their former homes but to simply say that this land never belonged to them in the first place is an outright lie.

I have not made a claim that there is a comparable situation. You have, by asserting that Israel is being held to a higher standard than other states. You can't have it both ways.

Blah blah blah.

Yes I have. Name another country that has been attacked repeatedly has been asked to give back land. Until you can name another country that fits that criteria you can STFU.

You in your usual intellectual dishonesty and hate filled bias are trying to pull apart what I said and remove parts of it to suit your hate. You fail as you always do, like all biased little minds do.

No country has been allowed to keep land under any circumstances, you tiresome twat. There is therefore no frame of reference with which to compare how Israel is being treated.

This is just another attempt to reduce all opposition to the "you hate the Jews!" strawman. Kindly fuck off with that.

It's awesome watching Dick squirm when he is backed into a corner.

Why should I back off the truth hatemonger?

No country has been attacked like Israel has. You just hate Israel and/or the Jews so you create bullshit to try and support it.

As for countries that keep lands that belong to others, we have China occupying Tibet, we have Russia occupying Chechnya and others. We have Iraq occupying Kurdistan. There are numerous examples, you're just full of shit.

China invaded Tibet in 1950 which is after your bullshit self serving WWII deadline. No serious sanctions or force are being used to free Tibet. Russia wasn't even a country (in modern times) until 1990. Again after your WWII crapola deadline.

You are proven to be a biased liar even under your own dishonest terms.

BTW, I love the insults after your little whining crybaby act about you being insulted.


Bottom line is you on every level.

has been allowed to keep? Interesting choice of words. As if there were some form of recognized world government when, as we all know, there's no such thing.

There is a system of international law, to which both your government and that of Israel voluntarily subscribe, whether you find that fact convenient or not.

As does China which occupies Tibet and Russia which occupies Chechnya, you tiresome twat.

Ignoring the childish invective...

Tibet was annexed by China with the acquiescence of the Tibetan government.
Chechnya has been under Russian sovereignty since the 18th century.
And Kurdistan has never been a nation state.

Ergo none of those count as territorial conquests in the way that Israels activity does.

And the "crapola deadline" is not mine, but that of the fourth Geneva Convention.

DP

China put a puppet gov't in Tibet. They accepted the rule. The legitimate gov't in exile never did.

Russia just became a county again in 1990. You can't have it both ways.

Once again you fail.