The Orville [SPOILERS WITHIN]

She damn well will be if I hear about that kind of money.

S03E05

This was the best episode of the season so far, IMO.
I was crying when Kelly started using "she" the moment Topa said she was female.

As much as I was enjoying my hyperbolic disdain of this season, the only thing I didn't like about Episode 5 was that, when Klyden left, he didn't take Ensign Bork with him. Those two should definitely run away together because they are both the absolute worst, and if they work together I don't have to undertake the impossible task of figuring out which one I hate more.

68/100 Score would have been higher but I had to deduct points for the above paragraph.

I'm sure this was just a fluke and next week will be just as terrible as the rest of the season.

Once again, this week's Orville (E05) blows this week's Trek out of the water. Orville took a topical real-world issue, hit all the notes, while putting just enough sci-fi spin on it.

Conversely, I didn't go for SNW's not-Predator episode at all. I didn't go for the fairytale-come-true-because-space-anomaly plot last week, either.

However, it didn't make sense that everything was back to normal at the end of the episode. At a minimum, the Admiralty should have removed Isaac from his position on the Orville.

I cried a little bit when the Admiral dressed down Ed and Kelly because it meant the plan worked. This was very much like a TNG/DS9 episode.

I cried a little bit every time Charleee Burrk was on screen because I knew she was going to be terrible.

You're funny!

OMG!! I started having "Black Momma" flashbacks!

She even asked them to send her regards to Topa after she ripped them a new one just like my Mom would make my favorite meal after she felt she may have been too hard on me without actually saying it.

This week’s episode was okay, they pressed the reset button with no consequences. I thought they’d at least try and find out what happened to the woman Gordon married.

She died of an ectopic pregnancy in 2023 because humanity is like your kid brother and sometimes your kid brother gets an AR-15 and shoots up a fucking school.

Lamar's math was wrong, to travel forward in time in a few (3) minutes, they would need to be traveling around 99.99999999999999999998999307714405543851% the speed of light.

Too much Charlee, dumb time-travel bullshit. I also don't buy Gordon/Time Capsule Girl being married.

5/100 Score would have been lower, but, if they're going to open an episode with Gordon singing and playing acoustic guitar, at least they had the decency to not have him do "Wonderwall."

Scott Grimes is not a bad singer, he does a good job on American Dad, but the song choice on this one sucked.

What was the point of trying to get Gordon to leave 2025 when they were still going to go to 2015?

They only decided that AFTER it was clear 2025 Gordon wouldn't leave.

Ed's mistake was bothering to tell him. But then he didn't have to tell 2015 Gordon about it all either. He's just the sort of guy who feels he needs to be totally open with folk.

Realistically they should have originally been like, "Oh snap, we're in 2025. Well, we better get some more dysonium so we can go back to 2015 and find Gordon moments after he sent his message. Don't want him to have spent an extra 10 years in this backwards hellscape in isolation, or even worse, potentially contaminating the timeline in ways we can't imagine."

About to lose me here, Seth.

While I still really enjoyed it, this ep was an excellent argument for why you stay the fuck away from time travel shit.

Now that's The Orville that I remember and love.

A really solid episode, even if it didn't break any new ground. (I'd also point out that the show is a total rip-off of TNG in any event.)

Loved the homage to BTTF III, which McFarlane is obviously a huge fan of.

Funny how some of the greatest and most highly-rated sci-fi films and television episodes involve time travel.

I gave up on this season after three episodes but yesterday I went back and watched the Topa episode just because of the topic. It was...better, and largely hit the right notes - and Kelly's performance was impressive. But I'm still uncertain about giving any of the rest of it another chance.

I don't think you should bother putting things that have already aired under spoiler tags.

Anyway, the Charly actress has been dating Seth.

well THAT is the least shocking revelation I've witnessed today

That explains a lot.

This was a very good episode. I loved all of the emotional punches, and have no problem saying I like seeing Mark Jackson out of the suit, because he is a snack.

The Kaylon rising up against their masters who had enslaved them brings a whole new light onto them. It doesn't absolve them of committing genocide against all biological life forms, but the fury behind it is certainly understandable, and overthrowing their masters was justification for some of what they ended up doing. I'm curious to see how, or if, they resolve this with the Kaylon. I don't know if that's in the cards, but it certainly adds a new element with Dr. Vilka and Timmis' work on opening up the possibility of empathy to the Kaylon, that they might know emotions. Of course, that could result in mass chaos, but I do wonder how it would play out.

All of that said, this may be my favorite episode of the season so far.

So far this season, I've been watching The Orville and then immediately after, watching Strange New Worlds. The first time was because I was excited about the new season of the Orville. After that dream was crushed, I did it that way because, even the not-so-great episodes of SNW would undoubtedly be better and remove the shit taste The Orville left in my mouth.

I can't do that this week. Oh, but The Boys releases on Friday! I'll have to bear it for a day but... no, The Boys ended as well. The only thing I have to look forward to TV-wise is Better Call Saul on Monday...

Dammit...

If this week's episode turns out to be Charlee-focused and Klyden returns, I'm cancelling my internet service.

Possibility - 2nd gen Kaylons can purge the "feel emotions" virus in a minute or so, but it DOES affect them in that minute. As Data once pointed out - to an android, that's very nearly an eternity. Infect all Kaylon and some might just choose to pursue the option given here of "downgrading" so they can keep feeling emotion. Get enough, and you have a possible resistance.

Though it's equally possible they'll just all be REALLY pissed at organics for doing this anyway, so status quo except they'll be more irrational in future.

Two potential problems:
It seems that to infuse emotions in Kaylons requires hands on computer stuff (as opposed to using something like the emotion broadcasting device used on Data in Descent). Although I suppose nothing stops them from sci-fi-ing up something like that.

The bigger problem is that Isaac seemingly has no memory of having had those feelings for Claire. Taking that at face value, it seems like you could only emotion-bomb them for so long and then when it wears off, it really wears off.

Oh, I know. What I meant is, the processing speed of Kaylons is such that they could decide to downgrade themselves (instead of needing organics to do it) and feel the emotions permanently in the short span of time (to us) they are feeling the emotions.

I thought this was a really good episode, but I could have done without the sex jokes. I would have liked to have seen the Kaylon uprising more. This reminded of Caprica, but this was handled a lot better in one episode than a whole season of Caprica did.