The Overton Window

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  1. Tripartisan

    Tripartisan try pola DIS oda!

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    The Overton window is a concept in political theory, named after its originator, Joe Overton, former vice president of the Mackinac Center for Public Policy. It describes a window in the range of public reactions to ideas in public discourse, in a spectrum of all possible options on an issue.

    Overton described a method for moving that window, thereby including previously excluded ideas, while excluding previously acceptable ideas. The technique relies on people promoting ideas even less acceptable than the previous outer fringe ideas. That makes those old fringe ideas look less extreme, and thereby acceptable. The idea is that priming the public with fringe ideas intended to be and remain unacceptable, will make the real target ideas seem more acceptable by comparison.

    http://www.amazon.com/Overton-Windo...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1276154719&sr=8-1

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  2. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    ^His ghost must have interesting stories to tell...
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    Lethesoda Quixiotic

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    ... I don't think there are words for this.
  4. Liet

    Liet Dr. of Horribleness, Ph.D.

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    Glen Beck, on a mission to make Ayn Rand's "prose" look well structured and readable in comparison.
  5. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Now, now. With his busy shooting schedule and interviews and speaking engagements, etc., he's as likely to have written this himself as Shatner has written everything that has his name on it.

    Let's give the ghostwriter props for having sufficient talent to have gotten the job, not to mention a high tolerance for the stink of Vicks Vap-O-Rub. He's earned every penny, not least for having to take the secret of his involvement to Glenn Beck's grave. Because the Faithful would be devastated to find out that the Sobmeister didn't write every word of this his own self.
  6. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Even Aynie hates him from beyond the grave.
    Here she shreds all the religionist "traditionalist", crap he stands for.

    [yt=Ayn Rand giving Beck and Beck-ites a new cornhole]oTf6NK0wsiA[/yt]
  7. Muad Dib

    Muad Dib Probably a Dual Deceased Member

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    I know the feeling. :muad:
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  8. Liet

    Liet Dr. of Horribleness, Ph.D.

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    Having read some reviews and excerpts of the book, I'm not so sure about that. The writing involved was not professional. Maybe it was ghost written by one of his show's interns. :shrug:
  9. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Probably not an intern, but some junior staffer would make sense. The guy's on salary already, so he could tap this out without having to get a piece of the advance, and certainly no royalties, so Beck pockets the whole enchilada.

    Given the target audience, the tone of the excerpts seems just about right. For every 100 fans who run out and buy this and leave it on the coffee table to impress their friends, maybe a half dozen will actually try to read it.

    The choice of Threshold as a publisher is clever...automatic screen tie-in with CBS.
  10. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

    Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee Straight Awesome

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    This thread is.... hmmm. What's a word that combines sad, cute, and gay?
  11. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    apostle83.

    Well, that was fish in a barrel.
    :clyde:
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  12. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Got your copy on pre-order, huh?
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    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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  14. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Do you disagree with anything in the video?
  15. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Or, do you think Beck would agree with any of it?
    I don't think he would.

    Do you agree?
    If so, him name-dropping her, as some intellectual fellow traveler, would be dumb at best, cynical chicanery at worst, wouldn't it?
  16. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    I didn't watch the video.

    since you respect neither Rand nor Beck, your interest in one symbolically attacking the other can only be :fap:
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    Muad Dib Probably a Dual Deceased Member

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  18. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    :shrug:
    :finger:
  19. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Oh, and...

    I disagree with Rand, but I respect her a damned sight more than Beck, for actually believing what she believed.

    Beck is a used car salesman who'll shovel whatever he has to for a buck, and the video proves it.
    If you can't see it,..well, it's literally because you don't want to, by your own admission.
    :shrug:
  20. Clyde

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    Glen Beck wrote a book? Okay.

    :clyde:
  21. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    That's not under debate, the scientific plausibility of such is.
    :async:
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  22. Clyde

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    You've video of Mr. Beck selling cars? Though you won't make much money (more if he's crying) I'm certain you'll find a buyer.
  23. RickDeckard

    RickDeckard Socialist

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  24. Clyde

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    Here's the headline from your link:
    Slanders socialism? Okay. Do you think socialism will sue for defamation?
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  25. Volpone

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    Fuck socialists. They are thieves and should be shot on sight.
  26. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Well, socialists or no, it's empirical fucking reality Beck recommended that pro-Nazi book.

    Hate socialists all you want, but when they say the sky is blue, it don't make it pink.
    It's fucking blue.
  27. Sean the Puritan

    Sean the Puritan Endut! Hoch Hech!

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    So you think apostle is cute, huh?

    As you said, fish in a barrel.
  28. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Well, "cute", in the sense of a baby puking on a dog.
    :clyde:
  29. Sean the Puritan

    Sean the Puritan Endut! Hoch Hech!

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    Is that cute? Doesn't sound cute to me.
  30. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    Doesn't seem like the sort of thing a guy "who'll shovel whatever he has to for a buck" would do...

    :shrug: