The real solution to abortion

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  1. MiniBorg

    MiniBorg Bah Humbug

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    Stop masturbating.

    Anyone who does should be done for genocide.

    Any man who has a wet dream should be done for genocidal manslaughter.

    Women are allowed to have periods with no crime, because that can be considered a little miscarriage every month.

    Men need to stop smoking weed because that can affect their sperm count. Also alcohol can affect conception, so they need to stop drinking as well. And smoking, that causes sperm issues. If you do any of those, that's negligent to your male duties, and you should be imprisoned.

    If a man fails to impregnate his wife, he needs to be examined, as he is probably a secret masturbator.

    I'll think of more later.
     
  2. MiniBorg

    MiniBorg Bah Humbug

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    All male masturbation, to be committed crime free, must happen at your nearest sperm clinic, to ensure that it can be adequately stored for future conception. Whether you pay for this, or the tax payer, is up to debate. Until it is decided, you must pay for it individually.
     
  3. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    Is the statute of limitations up on my vasectomy? :unsure:
     
  4. Zodiac

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    I agree, if every woman who turns me down at a bar is put to death for not agreeing to be the mother of my children.
     
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  5. Ward

    Ward A Stepford Husband

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    Wow. I didn't think there were any people left who actually took the "Every sperm is sacred" thing seriously anymore... :lol: Python did it better. :D
     
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  6. PGT

    PGT Fuck the fuck off

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    No, just the every embryo is sacred.

    :PGT:
     
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  7. Zodiac

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    I'd consider every viable embryo which would, in time, develop into a human being, to being a human being. I have no problem with killing it, but I'd just wish abortion-happy people would be more open about it.
     
  8. Tamar Garish

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  9. Zodiac

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    Seriously. Of course abortion is logically considered homicide - if you destroyed the seed of a flower what would it be considered? Because a flower wasn't yet a flower it can't be considered flowercide? This brings up questions of what 'is' is and of identity and this and that, but just because some whiney bitches who got raped want to say 'but it's not a life anyway' are supported by equally stupid bitch on The View doesn't mean we should warp thousands of years of logic just to suit them. If they were more open about it their position would be more respectable, but until then, every woman who has an abortion should admit to killing a human life.
     
  10. MiniBorg

    MiniBorg Bah Humbug

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    I eat sunflower seeds, I don't eat sunflowers.
    I eat poppy seeds, I don't eat poppies.

    Does everyone who 'swallow' eat babies?
     
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  11. MiniBorg

    MiniBorg Bah Humbug

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    New law! Those who swallow sperm must be convicted of cannibalism. Those that have sex with a woman during her period should be convicted of infant necrophilia. Even if the period starts while you're down there.
     
  12. Zodiac

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    So, babies and everything pertaining to their birth purely the domain of males?
     
  13. MiniBorg

    MiniBorg Bah Humbug

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    I'm working on the logic shown in previous threads.

    If you want to make those other arguments, then you need to add these ones to it.
     
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    I see. You mean to say that by the strict standards of modern society, spermatozoa should be considered human beings. You are wrong. Wake us up when you grow past 21 years or so.
     
  15. Tamar Garish

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    There is nothing logical about this.

    There is a huge difference between sperm and unfertilized eggs and a fertilized egg.

    Nothing but a :strawman: that means zilch. :jayzus:
     
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  16. Muad Dib

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    I encourage all you wemenz to be cannibals.

    It's important! :techman:
     
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  17. MiniBorg

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    Strict standards of modern society?

    I'm simply satirizing the argument that life begins at conception. And that every single fertilised egg, no matter the age, should be put in a fake womb to grow. So if you apply that logic 0.000001 seconds earlier, every sperm is a potential life. So they should all be stored for potential future use. Because if you aren't making a moral argument, and your argument is one based in science, then there is so little to distinguish the fertilized egg from the immediate part before it, where the sperm is just about to fertilize it, then you need to also agree with the above arguments.

    Because you need to remember as well, that it's not sperm in, sperm out. There is the point where the sperm is going in, partially in, but not completely in. What's that?
     
  18. Jamey Whistler

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    The real solution to abortion:

    [?=What is the secret of The Grail?]If you can't feed 'em, don't breed 'em.[/?]
     
  19. Zodiac

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    And not very well.

    Potential life, and not life.


    BZZZZT. All your base are belong to WRONG. Just because I call 'fire' the stuff I see emanating from a lit candle doesn't mean I have to call an unlit candle and an unlit match fire or some derivative, or pretend they burn me the same as the actual product.

    Uhh, please don't breed? You personally.
     
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  20. Volpone

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    Yup. It's a weak argument. You need a sperm and an egg to make a baby. Just sperm doesn't do it. And (unless you're a Catholic) just an egg won't either. :shrug:
     
  21. Delaware

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    Spot on. Leave a sperm or an ovum to its own, solitary devices, and it will die, never having approached humanity. Put them together, and without outside interference, they will become a human. The difference is that without an action taken on the gametes, their natural course is death, without an action taken on the foetus, it will come to life. If you see a man jump from a building, you didn't kill him, if you see a man struggling to maintain his grip and slowly pulling himself up, then proceed to step on his fingers and send him crashing down, you did.

    Not that I'm necessarily entirely opposed to abortion. While I firmly believe that people need to learn to be responsible for their actions, and creations, that's not reasonable to expect from a hive organism like humanity. The best solution would seem to be one that allows abortion in limited circumstances: Rape, of course when the mother's life is in the balance, the first trimester.
     
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    My spermies are people? I wish Cassandra was here. Not only am I Hitler incarnate, I'm Hitler an octillion times over!

    SIEG HEIL

    :beck:
     
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  23. Tamar Garish

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    What tripe...and frankly, irrelevant.

    Even if it were true, it doesn't matter because by the time any woman knows they are pregnant the fetus is so far beyond that stage only a fool would think there is some kind of value in comparing it to a sperm or egg cell. :jayzus:

    And I rather think that science sees a difference between a single-celled organism and a dynamic, ever-evolving multi-celled one. :jayzus:
     
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  24. classichummus

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    Either MiniBorg is just fucking with us, or she is being a complete dumbass.

    Most sperm are retarded and never actually reach the egg. Only a few select ones are able to reach the egg. Most sperm are not even nearly a potential life! Just shut the fuck up and quit while you are ahead.
     
  25. Nocturne of Vladimir Jazz

    Nocturne of Vladimir Jazz And Hell's comin' with me!

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    It's funny that this passes as a legitimate bit of sarcastic "wit" to you, considering the obvious difference between a sperm and an embryo.

    But, for wit's sake, I suppose we can ignore the fact that a sperm is useless without fertilization, and an embryo will become a child if not aborted.
     
  26. Nocturne of Vladimir Jazz

    Nocturne of Vladimir Jazz And Hell's comin' with me!

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    Now lets not open up discussion on the sanctity of sunfower and poppy life.
     
  27. PGT

    PGT Fuck the fuck off

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    The wit requires no connection between the two arguments. Other than their general assinine nature.

    While I can vaguely understand some people's concern that a lump of flesh that is shaped like a baby (but otherwise has no features of a human being - like a nervous system) gets aborted. I can not at all understand the horror some people feel at, for example, a one week old embryo being aborted.

    After all, something like 25% of fertilised embryos are miscarried. Many without the woman even knowing she was pregnant. God's a fucker, isn't he?
     
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    There is a difference between a sperm and an embryo.
    There is also a difference between an embryo and a person.
     
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    And at that stage even non-human features like a tail...
     
  30. Nightbird

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    MiniBorg is fucking with you.
    You fuckers that are taking this seriously, need to get a life.... STAT !