Throw Lawrence Krauss on the pile

And you have faith because you've read about that information in yet more books.

I'd let you read my book "The Case Against Christ" that outlines the logical arguments against the death and resurrection of Christ, but I feel I can summarize it for you thusly:

HURRR DURRRRR

Two can play that game.
This podcast debunks that turd nugget better than I feel like doing for your lazy ass.

http://podbay.fm/show/1041876428/e/1491908400?autostart=1

Because books about real tested things are on equal footing with magic boats, talking donkeys, talking snakes, multi-headed dragons, and man-faced locust monsters.

Still waiting on non-stupid sources for the historicity of the existence of Jesus, Dayton. Contemporary sources? References in ancient texts?

The Bible pretty much fits the definition of an "ancient text"

Dayton is basically appealing to post-modernism.

"You can't prove ANYTHING is real!!!!!".

No, I can't prove I'm not plugged into the Matrix.
Y'know what might lean towards me being in the Matrix, and the Matrix being broken?
Man-faced locust monsters.

You sure about that, King James?

Try something other than that unimpeachable fountain of truth, though.

That's frequently the case, yes.

Can someone take away Dayton's neg repping solely based on the fact it would be funny?

Dayton thinks man-faced locust monsters are facepalm-y.
So do I.
Too bad for him they're in the Bible.

The Bible is literal truth word for word, except when it's not.

And as for the Bible being a reliable source of the existence of Jesus, let's imagine we live in the year 4545 and man is still alive. Over the last 2500 years, Scientology has become the world's dominant religion based on the extant writings of Hubbard and the works of Cruise.

FutureDayton, a substitute teacher of space history on the planet New Arkansas, insists that Lord Xenu is real due to the continued existence of ancient texts and moving pictures, and we must fear his volcanic wrath because Scientology has been a raging success for over 2500 years. Therefore it simply MUST be true! 50 quintillion Space Elvis fans can't be wrong, after all.

When faced with the assertion there is no Xenu and that Scientology is a crock of shit, FutureDayton scoffs and says there's no way to prove anything, really, and that theoretical scientific concepts are based on faith alone and not the conjecture of individuals based on observation and the rigors of scientific testing.

FutureDayton also feels that scientists are just as slavishly devoted to orthodoxy as he is and will never accept evidence contrary to their theoretical models. FutureDayton is, much like his ancestor here in 2018, wrong. And just as dumb to boot.

You ignore the obvious. Ron Hubbard once told an acquaintance of his up front that Scientology was a false religion.

https://tonyortega.org/2016/09/30/w...guard-and-admitted-scientology-was-all-a-con/

You ignore the obvious. Jesus said the same thing to Pilate. As for Hubbard's statement, it just didn't survive the Council of Beck and the Leah Remini Schism.

Jesus never said that.

How do you know? Were you there? The whole Passion could have gone down exactly like it did in "Life of Brian" for all we know.

No it couldn't. There were witnesses whose accounts are recorded. Witnesses who would not be used in any kind of falsified accounts. For one, several of them were women. As pointed out in "The Case for Christ" womens testimony was not weighted as heavily as a mans during that time.

Thus if you were trying to falsify an account you would never have a woman as one of your witnesses.

He teaches history...he teaches history...

science too

(Dayton disagrees)

Does it ever embarrass you that the atheist remembers your own book better than you?

Revelation

9:7 And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were crowns like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men.
9:8 And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as the teeth of lions.
9:9 And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.
9:10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months.

I can't handle Dayton's Christianity for Dummies theology anymore.

No. That is complete bullshit, and it is frightening that you don't know that.

Outside of the Bible? Name them. Name the PRIMARY source used here.

So what, you're personally vouching for them? As if that matters at all?

Name one primary source not from the Gospel (which is not contemporary with Jesus) that describes the death and resurrection of Jesus in real time. Name one written by a woman. Good luck.

That has absolutely zero value in terms of historicity and if you have any respect for the discipline of history, you'll accept that.

Name one primary, contemporary source of the life and death of Jesus Christ. I'm not even saying there aren't any. Show your work here.

What's frightening is that he has had a hand in anyone's education. Someone is now just a little more stupid for having been taught by Mr. Case For Christ here.

@Dayton3 thinks that because women weren't accepted as reliable witnesses, the fact that their testimony was used by the gospel writers proves that what they were saying was true. Have I got that right?

I'm still waiting for actual primary sources that tell of these miraculous events.

Revelations has been taken by most Bible scholars and students I know of to be full of symbolism and not to be taken literally.

That is correct Rick. If a person is preparing a false account of an event, they would (naturally) claim the most reliable possible people as their witnesses. Given that the testimony of women was not weighted as strongly as that of men, the only reason that the writers of the gospels would use women as witnesses in their accounts would be that they were providing a true and honest accounting of what happened.

So if I round up a few ex-cons and perjurers, and get them to say that they saw a zombie climbing out of the grave, you'll believe that too?

Today is a different era Rick.