Trans activists failing to persuade people on the sports issue

You really need to start viewing @Diacanu as the ridiculous joke that he is, it would help avoid stupid outbursts like this that make you look ridiculous

He really frustrates me with his clown show. There's no way he's that stupid.

He’s not stupid - he’s immature, inexperienced, weak and afraid

Because it doesn't account for bone density.

And stupid.

The bone density thing is not an issue if you take hormone blockers at puberty.

You should go back to your pissbaby fit about buying the board because you might be more successful at that than something you are not educated enough to be talking about.

You can skip to 2:50.

And at what age does one start talking those puberty blockers?

Do you understand what puberty is, or have you not made it to puberty yet? Maybe it is both.

This is why you cannot be a serious part of this conversation. @Jenee is right that you have no idea how this works. I could get your point if you were talking about adult sports, but if you are talking about kids who would be taking the blockers to stop development at a time when they have yet to develop adult characteristics, then you are a fucking moron.

Don't let me forget that you just used bone mass in regards to fucking swimming. Not to mention the reality that the trans man beat the trans woman in that sport completely negating your whole anecdotal point that trans women will always win.

250 billion Dayton points for you. Now back to the pissbaby meltdown for you.

How about you brag about how you sell products you despise to people you loathe, spinach boy?
That's so fuckin' awesome.

So you don't know the age then, gotcha.

No idea what you’re taking about - I like the products i buy and sell and enjoy most of my customers

Tell us about your job

Liar.

Woke blogging? I'm sure it earns enough ad revenue to help his mom with the groceries.

Aww, Lubak has a second toadie.

This is the immature diacanu i was referring to upthread. You can set your watch to it!

But yes, if you really must i know i find the constant travel to Europe and Asia as well as the twice annual dividends to be absolute torture

Your crutch-like dependence on this phrase is what's clockish.

It is called puberty dufus. If you do not know the age range of puberty (because it does not happen on a specific day for everyone) then you have no business in this debate.

There has to be a certtain general knowledge prerequisite for participating in one of these arguments, and knowing the general idea about puberty and how it is the start of the development of adult characteristics like the bone density you mentioned.

Come back to us when you hasve completed high school biology or sex ed boy.

So let's say starting at age eleven for girls. Do you really think that's responsible and that an eleven year old is mature enough to make that type of decision for themselves?

Now you are arguing a completely different argument. If you want to argue about being a fascist and preventing people from taking drugs that stop testosterone, then that is another subject.

However, a trans female who is taking testosterone blockers from puberty will not develop adult male physical characteristics. I should note that a cis woman or trans man would not be taking testosterone blockers. Your whole bullshit point is based upon trans women having testosterone and developing male characteristics that might allow them to participate on higher levels than cis women.

You did not just move the goal posts with this stupid post, you started playing basketball. This is why you have no place in this conversation.

I guess I will put this in for @Federal Farmer again. I have told you this before, and I am going to spike on your again because you are a feebleminded little cunt.

Hormones and HRT are not new, and they are not just for trans people and adults. Many pubescent children who are cis and straight are given hormone therapies. This is not just hormone blockers. Some are born with differences that prevent them from making hormones and they are prescribed them so they grow their adult gender characteristics. Others may have a multitude of sicknesses that require hormones as medicine. Hormones are a well studied and natural part of human development. Trans HRT comes from and is a reason for some of these knowledges, but is certainly not the only one.

If you were not such an ignorant POS you might know cis women often have to take Birth control, the same HRT trans girls would take, once they start ovulation because of things like Ovarian cysts and cancers that can develop in their reproductive organs. BC is a long studied and safe HRT when administered by physician. It is medicine for many women and not taken to prevent pregnancy.

So do not claim a child cannot consent to these things, as they do every single day. It is not harmful, and the reason you do not know about it is no one should need to have to run their medicine by some fascist asshole who has no other purpose than to cause them pain and humiliate them. They do not have to go to your high school, or joe rogan's for that matter, and ask for your Trumpy permission to get medicine. They do not need to get permission from every MAGAt in the world.

You are stupid and uneducated. No one bothers telling you because they have a doctor and you could never be one due to your tiny brain in your broke ass dick. The only thing you should get when you try to insert yourself into the medical decisions of others is your nose broken. You have no business in it Trump Boy.

http://wordforge.net/index.php?threads/can-kids-consent-to-hormone-blockers.121312/

As for you, there is a solution to your problem, but you are not going to like it. Start accepting people's gender identity from a young age. A large number of trans girls know they are girls long before hormones start differentiating girls from boys. If this is addressed when it occurs before puberty, then these girls can be prescribed T blockers and female hormones at puberty. This will cause their bodies to develop as if they are female, and keep their T levels in the area of a cis girl. The problem arises because people, like you, try to interfere and force these girls to develop as boys despite their desire to develop as girls. Then you are going to punish them for developing the male characteristics you forced them to by shaming them and barring them from receiving hormone therapy from the beginning.

by accepting their claims, and working with them to maintain a female body through medication, the problem gets eliminated. The only thing you would have to do is deal with those of us who have not had a chance to develop the bodies of the proper gender. This is a problem that will die out within a few years in the high school world. If there was acceptance and encouragement you could easily allow trans girls to compete with cis girls as long as they maintained their existence as a female by taking the hormone therapy. I will tell you that these trans girls would be happy to get the HRT that develops their body as female as much as possible. The differences being they won't be able to birth babies which is not a sport I am aware of, and even if it does become one they are not going to be able to compete.

So let them be who they are, and make taking hormones to develop as a female part of the requirements for participating on a female team. Problem fucking solved. Those who would want to gain an advantage to be female champions by crossdressing, no one, would not be allowed to be in the competition without committing to being female. That means you need to STFU and allow them to commit to having a female body.

Hey @Federal Farmer your rep says it all about you. You cannot participate in the conversation and you know it.

I kicked your ignorant stupid ass. I will do it again next time too.

I just don't get the fucking mentality of "it's all in their head".


I was a weird little kid.
I got deep into make-believe.
When I played Hulk, I reeeaally committed to it.
When I was Terminator, I reeeaally committed to it.
But at the end of the day, I could shut it off.
And I never felt compelled to play a girl.
Who are these boys that are "really committed to the bit"????

And to what end??
Makes no fucking sense to me.
People goddamned know what they are.
They aren't lying.
I didn't really think I was the fucking Hulk.

It's just an excuse to bully.
That it's adult-on-kid bullying that's the fucking gross part.

It's an extension of the "being gay is a choice!" BS. If sexuality is a choice, I can solve my dry spell (well, epoch) by choosing to be attracted to homeless folk I happen to have waved a £10 in front of.

Ah yes. The Ed (why can’t I tag?) school of dating.

But the skeletal structure and lung capacity remain.

And its made trans athletes unbeatable champions!
Oh, wait...