All the attorney for the defendants have to do is quote the law and US Supreme Court precedent. Absent an order from a Court of competent jurisdiction, the Police have absolute discretion on whether or not to make an arrest. They are not required to arrest anyone, even if a crime is committed in front of them. It's the same discretion that allow them to let you off with a warning, or just let you go, if they catch you speeding. It's the same discretion that allows them to not arrest you for pot possession when they see a joint in an ashtray. If you commit murder in front of a police officer, there's no legal requirement for that officer to arrest you. Now, there's a whole host of reasons he should, both moral and ethical. But, legally? Nope. Now, let me close with a warning for those who want to remove that discretion. Think about the length and breadth of statutory legislation. I'm willing to bet that everyone reading these words has committed some sort of offense within the last 24 hour period. If you want to take away the Police's discretion on enforcing those laws, you better start funding and building prisons and jails. Thousands and thousands of prisons and jails.
That right there is the main reason I distrust the police force. Always have. With this kind of "discretion", there behave more like 3rd grade hall monitors than adults monitoring the safety of the public. The Kenosha Sherriff is still having issues for allowing Rittenhouse and others, but especially a teenager with an assault weapon, so it doesn't matter what the law currently is, it's going to change. and that guy is going to lose everything. Is it the outcome I'd have hoped for? Hell no. But, he definitely needs to be held accountable for allowing a 17 year old to be out in that situation with an assault weapon. His mother as well. The kid who bought the gun for him is already in prison. Seems like everyone except those directly responsibly are the ones suffering.
It is a little more complicated than that. The lawsuit alleges that Kenosha PD conspired with the anti-BLM protestors and bent the rules for them, which emboldened them to think they could do whatever they wanted and get away with it, which led to the shooting. Shooting from the hip, my guess would be there would be significant proof problems. Even if we take it as a given that KPD went easier on the anti-BLM protestors because they are racist or don't like the BLM message, I would think there would have ti be a tighter connection between KPD and Rittenhouse's actions. for there to be liability.
It will be awesome when he is convicted and wisconsin elects a republican gov who will immediately pardon him to own the libs.
There are several things wrong there. 1. Frustration with lawlessness or tough talk doesn't prove intent, especially since what occurred was not the scenario Rittenhouse was talking about. 2. Rittenhouse did not initiate violence on the night of the shooting. 3. Rittenhouse did not merely shoot protestors. There's pretty solid evidence that he was defending himself.
Why do these cowards do this shit in Portland? I have not had a good to the pain match in paintball in years.
While he was in a place where he had no business, with a gun... fuck never mind... you're right poor little Kyle is the real victim here. Silly me....
The self defense motive might work. It would seem that despite being a violent little racist and inserting himself into a dangerous situation for the purpose of shooting at protestors he might have found himself about to get his ass kicked. White supremacists and guntards have been using and promoting this defense for years. It was even a joke on South Park on how you get to violate restrictions on hunting by screaming out it's coming right for us. I hope the prosecutors get to present this evidence and the fact that Kyle is a rather nasty violent psychopath. Still, I have this feeling a jury is going to feel he feared for his life and excuse his actions. My hope is after he is freed someone out there shoots him first the next time he is carrying in the open because they feared for their lives with a known murderer on the loose in their neighborhood threatening lives. If armed right supremacists start getting blown away in self defense when they threaten a neighborhood by carrying then maybe the laws will change.
It was in public. He isn't required to demonstrate some reason acceptable to you for being there. I'm not saying all his choices were wise or good ones, but it was others who decided to initiate violence. And, in fact, he was attempting to perform a public service by being there. Rittenhouse didn't show up on the scene and open up randomly. He was threatened by a VERY aggressive BLM protestor who chased him when he tried to run away. This is indisputable, as it is captured on video. The subsequent attacks on Rittenhouse as he attempted to leave the scene weren't well-advised, either. Trying to whack a guy carrying an AR-15 with your skateboard ranks right up there on the list of most imprudent actions of all time. And, let's not forget, the other guy who was shot had--illegally--a firearm, and was bringing it into play. He wouldn't have been shot if he hadn't tried to engage in gunplay; where's your disapproval of him coming armed to a protest?
If Kyle doesn't cross a state line to get his adolescent rocks off in a dangerous place there might have been two less deaths.
Speaking as one of the most pro-gun, pro-self-defense, pro-AR-15 people on the board... Kyle should have been home playing GFA or whacking off or something. Nothing he did was good. Under age, borrowed rifle, a civilian "patrolling" a riot out-of-state? What an idiot.
Majority of these tragedies was due to someone doing something stupid. Speaking of doing something stupid... U.S. Capitol Police Clear Officer Who Shot Ashli Babbitt During Jan. 6 Riot Internal probe concludes officer acted lawfully, adhered to department policy in fatal shooting It doesn't matter which "side" you are on.....If you force your way onto property that you have no business being in and you intimidate people holding weapons, prepare to be shot. Why this is so hard for today's generation to understand I will never know.
