I hope the FBI are taking notes and are going to arrest a truckload of police officers after this is over for violating civil rights or whatever will stick. State-level charges aren't enough for some of the goonish behavior I've seen in this thread alone. And I hope some sheriffs get fired, or whoever's egging on / enabling these idiots.
Edit: I think the top tweet is showing something fake. Haven't been able to find anything about it. The bottom is a real video.
I sure wish people would take a twitter break. I'm over inane tweets being posted as something substantive.
I'm really over people referring to all of this mess as "protests". The "protests" ended a few nights ago. This is rioting and looting and chaos.
The problem is police violence seems to be happening every single night. It clearly does not end with one person, and therefor you need to put constant pressure or else the police think they are not doing anything wrong anymore.
No, it's protests. With chaos descending afterward. Mob rule takes charge after a certain point. I doubt anyone went thinking they were going to score a new TV. I think rioting looting and chaos may serve a greater purpose though: it's bad for business and might make the power brokers wake up and take notice their paid law enforcement needs muzzling.
Just remember, if the mainstream media says it or you read it on the internet, especially Twatter, it must be true.
If people think a tweet is substantive, search for a respectable source, validate, and post what you think with a link to the source. Filling up pages with crap tweets is annoying. Of course this doesn't apply to trump. We need to see his tweets so we can point and laugh.
If you read it on twitter is is a load of crap. only people like you use twitter trolls from the right as reliable sources. You are one of the people who use twitter trolls as factual sources.
Marso's so racist, he punishes his liver for being too brown with paint-stripper strength cowboy whiskey. The irony being, this will make his liver full-blown charcoal black. So, he's lucky he can even hit keyboard keys. It's the closest thing to a supernatural miracle that his sources are as good as they are.
So where do you get your "information"? Viral emails your buds forward to you? Rumors around the shootin' range? Old Sears catalogs in the outhouse?
don't know if this is already in the thread (I don't have the patience to read through knowing how certain folks will just piss me off when I'm already...) but anyway, a statement from the store owner that called the police who killed Floyd
An odd read when people gather and march for literally hours without any serious incident in most cases until it's full dark and/or the cops get belligerent. In every protest ever their are bad actors who seek to pursue alternate motives under cover of the crowd (whether looting, or anarchy, or whatever) and there's a long documented history of protests being turned into riots by cops over-reacting (which happened all over the place this weekend) It is intellectually lazy to wave away the legitimate pain of the protests because bad actors act badly. If "bad apple" cops do not de-legitimize all law enforcement, then "bad apple" antagonists in a protest march doesn't de-legitimize the intentions and motives of the overall protest.
Huntington Beach 2 weeks ago: Protest against stay-at-home order and to open the beaches on the left. VS Today: "unlawful assembly" to protest racism & police violence on the right. Wonder what the difference is? Wonder why people are mad?
just to be clear about my views, so I don't have to troll this whole thread reacting: (posted this on Facebook yesterday) All of these can be - and indeed ARE - true all at the same time: 1. the great majority of non-uniform people in the street are peaceful protestors legitimately outraged about police brutality; 2. Some minority among them are various sorts of agent provocateurs seeing to take advantage of the protests to instigate chaos for their own objectives; 3. Some minority among them, separate from and overlapping with the previous group, are opportunists seizing the opportunity to steal and destroy and commit violence either for profit or for shits and giggles; 4. Some proportion of LEOs, WANT the confrontation, revel in the chance to swing their dick around, feel entitled to assert their authority as above question in case it's ever their own knee in the wrong place, and most others are too invested in "brotherhood" loyalty to excise that tumor - and as such they are making the confrontations worse; 5. the deliberate LEO targeting of journalists is a new and dangerous aspect of police riots and clearly demonstrates that officers who do so consciously feel they have legal impunity to do literally whatever they want - even on camera - because of the uniform. We can be outraged about multiple of these, or all of them, simultaneously. My case is that those bad acts done under color of authority are orders of magnitude worse than some rando stealing a TV or breaking a window. But that does not at all mean that I don't think the rando is 100% in the wrong if for no other reason than that such behavior calls the whole protest into question (which is no doubt what some of them want to do)
I’m willing to bet that I understand crowd control better than anyone else on this board. I understand that 1) I’m not on the ground and 2) there is a razor thin line between earnestly enforcing the law and overreaction. That said, the police response in most major cities is absolutely bewildering.
A friend of mine in San Diego got hit with this while covering protests. He’s fine, fortunately. He said he’s going to add it to the rock garden at his house.
I tend to agree with all of the above except for the part about No. 5 where you call the deliberate targeting of journalists "new." I'm pretty sure as long as there have been protests there have been some cops who specifically targeted the journalists who have been covering them.
