Trouble in America

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  1. spot261

    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    It seems to be, although as ever it's always going to be a question of perspective. There will be those who claim the protest wasn't peaceful.
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    They are! Trump controls his base directly.
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    I disagree with the use of active voice. In both directions.

    Also a simpler verb might be better. Like "use".
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    Some folks compiled some of the police violence:

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    Just ACAB.

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    I saw where Rudy Gialiani said on Fox last night that holding the knee on the neck for so long provided ample proof of intent.
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    Someone dug up an old Trump quote where he praised China's "horrible, but strong" response by massacring protesters in Tiananmen Square.

    https://www.businessinsider.com.au/...nse-to-george-floyd-protests-2020-6?r=US&IR=T

    All about not being seen as weak, whilst ordering the military to fight his battles for him.
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    So have they shot anyone yet? You know, with real bullets? Interestingly, my favorite NBA team was the Washington Bullets. Washington could use them right now.
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    But...but..feelings
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  17. T.R

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    Done. And I know that some of you are confused on such simple concepts as gender, but it's MR. ASSHOLE. Thank you :techman:
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    They won't care.
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    Dumb dumb killed himself while trying to blow up an ATM




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    Politicians starting to turn on each other.

    What Cuomo won't say however is that he has refused to send in the New York National Guard. They are activated and on standby but he hasn't sent them to New York City yet.
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    Like I said, I respectfully disagree that is the primary way to interpret it.

    One can reasonably expect that there will be expert testimony that this is a legitimate restraint technique taught by police, that normally it is executed with limited danger of sustained-pressure choking, that doing it to a healthy person should not result in choking, etc. Chauvin or other witnesses will likely testify as to the obvious alternative explanation why he did not stop his restraint or repossession him earlier: because he did not believe that he was doing harm and was not pressing down on the neck hard enough to do harm, and he obviously didn't want to kill Floyd. There is finally the county autopsy that says that there is no evidence of traumatic asphyxiation. People's mileage may vary, but I see that as adding up to reasonable doubt that Chauvin really said to himself even for a second, "I want to kill this man."
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  23. T.R

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    And like I said, he's a lawyer and former prosecutor. You are not.

    Not a single cop I know says that this is a technique taught to police. Choke holds of any kind haven't been a part of police procedure since around the 1990s.

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    Well, it was taught in Minneapolis. The evidence has already been provided.
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    Umm I was taught it.....

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    6 Atlanta officers charged after students pulled from car



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  27. Zombie

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    In regards to Trump calling out the use for the military. While you're all running your mouths you're not paying attention to the fact that he's following the law.

    It's why on the call on Monday he told the governors that they need to deploy their states national guards units and use them. Notice what he didn't say to them was that he was in charge. He told the governors to do their job.

    Here's the link to the transcript of the call:

    https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/06...dominate-or-youll-look-like-a-bunch-of-jerks/

    TRUMP:

    We’re strongly looking for arrests. You have to get much tougher. You’re gonna get over it. I know Gov. Walz is on the phone and we spoke and I fully agree with the way he handled it the last couple of days, I asked him to do that. You know, a lot of me — we have all the men and women that you need. But people aren’t calling them up.

    You have to dominate. If you don’t dominate, you’re wasting your time. They’re going to run all over you, you’ll look like a bunch of jerks. You have to dominate, and you have to arrest people, and you have to try people and they have to go to jail for long periods of time. I saw what happened in Philadelphia.

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    You have every one of these guys on tape, why aren’t you prosecuting them? Now the harder you are, the tougher you are, the less likely it is that you’re going to be hit. This is a movement. We found out they’re delivering supplies to various place in various states, your people know about it now.'

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    You have everybody on tape, you gotta arrest all those people, you gotta try them. And if they get five years or ten years, they have to get five years or ten years. There’s no retribution. So I say that and the word is dominate. If you don’t dominate your city and your state, they’re gonna walk away with you.
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    I know the situations vary around the country but it seems that some of the common dimensions are, you have control of (?) protesters, you have opportunistic people like looters, but in many places, if not most places, you have this ingredient of extremist anarchist agitators who are riding the (INAUDIBLE).

    Law enforcement response is not gonna work unless we dominate the streets, as the President said. We have to control the streets. If we treat these as demonstrations, the police are pinned back, guarding places and don’t have the dynamic ability to go out and arrest the troublemakers. They’re just standing in a line watching the events. Then when they disperse the crowds, the crowds go running off in different directions, create havoc, there is looting and everything. We have to control the crowd and not react to what’s happening. And that requires a strong presence. In many places it will require the National Guard and when there’s a strong presence, (INAUDIBLE) to defend buildings or a strong presence to control the crowd, things are quieting down, as in Minneapolis.​


    No mention or threat of deploying the US military. The military if deployed is only after the states have exhausted their resources OR a governor asks for it.

    Trump has put these Democrat governors in a box. They have to use the national guard themselves or ask him for military aid. Either way it makes them look bad.

    Democrats are trying to do the same thing they were trying to do with the virus. They are trying to goad Trump into acting so they can accuse him of being a dictator. But just like he foiled them when he told the governors it was their job to close/open their states he's doing it again with the riots and telling them it is their job to get the riots under control. And he's right. It's their job. They want him to bring out the military so they can scream he's a dictator but he's not playing ball.

    You guys hate Trump so much (along with the media) that he can say things like he's going to send in the military that you pay no attention to what he's actually doing.
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    Darwin for the WIN! :yes: Sadly this would-be master thief had to die in the name of justice for George Floyd.
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