Trump tests positive for COVID

K. · Oct 15, 2020

MikeH92467 said: ↑

There's a message in there somewhere...
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Yes. "Eat."

Diacanu · Oct 16, 2020

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I can't believe he still is reluctant to wear a mask in public knowing that he has been sick and can potentially infect others.
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What part of "he doesn't give a shit about anyone but himself", is having a hard time getting into your head?

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I get that he's a self-centered douche. It's more that even from the perspective of "what's in it for me?" being able to say "I've learned how dangerous this is, and I'm slightly changing course" would benefit him politically. But maybe that is naive of me too, since anyone who is potentially voting for Trump at this point is really not going to care that he is potentially infecting the people who are supposed to be protecting him. And some of the people who are potentially voting for him actively like that he's saying fuck masks and thereby owning the libs.
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People who can re-write reality for a herd of cultists don't have to worry about optics.

Tuckerfan · Nov 7, 2020

Trump's Chief of Staff has tested positive and has almost certainly been spreading it around the White House.

Six in White House, Including Trump’s Chief of Staff, Have the Coronavirus

Mark Meadows aided President Trump’s efforts to play down the virus throughout the summer. A Trump campaign adviser and four other White House aides also tested positive.

Six White House aides and a Trump campaign adviser — including Mark Meadows, President Trump’s chief of staff — have contracted the coronavirus, officials said, raising fears of another outbreak sweeping through the ranks of the nation’s top officials as cases surge to record levels in the country.

Mr. Meadows, who routinely shrugged off the need to wear masks and embraced Mr. Trump’s strategy of playing down the threat from the coronavirus over the summer, informed a small group of White House advisers that he had tested positive for the virus on Wednesday, a senior administration official said late Friday.

Five other White House officials also tested positive for the virus in the days before and after Election Day, people familiar with the diagnoses told The New York Times. Bloomberg News also reported on additional cases around the president, who contracted the virus last month and spent three days in the hospital receiving experimental treatments.

Nick Trainer, who worked on the president’s campaign, has also tested positive for the coronavirus, a person briefed on his diagnosis said.

The new wave of infections rattled and angered members of the White House staff even as they struggled to come to grips with Mr. Trump’s likely loss in the presidential race. News of the infections emerged despite warnings to keep quiet about the new cases, according to two White House officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to publicly discuss internal conversations.

A few weeks ago, Mr. Meadows sought to keep an outbreak in Vice President Mike Pence’s office from becoming public.

Public health experts said the infections of Mr. Meadows and the others at the White House underscored the importance of taking numerous steps to prevent the spread of the virus. Mr. Meadows and Mr. Trump have said repeatedly that they did not need to wear masks or maintain social distancing because they were frequently tested.

“It’s emblematic of the national failure to control Covid,” said Tom Frieden, who served as the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention under President Barack Obama. “It shows the fallacy of relying on testing alone. Testing doesn’t replace other safety measures. It’s just one tool among many.”

The new cases at the White House came as the pandemic rampaged across the United States, which has averaged more than 100,000 new cases per day over the past week and hit another record on Friday, with more than 132,700 cases in a single day.

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As of Saturday morning, more than 9,830,800 people in the United States had been infected with the coronavirus, and more than 236,500 had died.

Mr. Meadows is the latest in a string of people connected to the White House to contract the virus in the past seven weeks, including Mr. Trump and the first lady, Melania Trump, a half-dozen aides to the president and five aides to Mr. Pence, including his chief of staff, Marc Short. Several journalists who work at the White House were also infected. On Saturday, Representative Matt Gaetz, Republican of Florida and a close ally of Mr. Trump’s, disclosed that he had tested positive for virus antibodies on Tuesday but said he did not know when he had contracted the virus.

At least one gathering at the White House — a celebration of Mr. Trump’s nomination of Judge Amy Coney Barrett to the Supreme Court on Sept. 26 — is suspected of being a “superspreader” event after more than a dozen aides, reporters and guests who were in attendance or came into contact with people who were there tested positive for the virus.

That event took place in the Rose Garden and inside the White House.

Dr. Frieden said it was possible the new cases, including Mr. Meadows’s, may actually be part of the same outbreak from late September, rather than a separate cluster of cases. That would suggest that the White House has not gotten control of the virus as it spreads through the West Wing.

“It may be the same cluster that has continued for well over a month,” Dr. Frieden said. “You’re not going to control it if you don’t try to control it.”

Mr. Trump has spent most of the year playing down the threat of the virus, and several White House officials, including Mr. Meadows, have encouraged him to treat the pandemic as a localized threat in Democratic-leaning states.

It is unclear how aggressive the White House intends to be in trying to track the contacts that Mr. Meadows and the other infected aides have had over the past several days. People who test positive are often infectious in the days leading up to the test, especially if they have symptoms of the disease.

Mr. Meadows, a former member of Congress, is a gregarious presence at the White House whose position requires him to interact with people throughout the West Wing and frequently takes him to the residential part of the White House to meet with the president.

On Tuesday night, Mr. Meadows was at Mr. Trump’s election party at the White House, which included several hundred people gathered in the East Room for several hours, many of them not wearing masks as they mingled while watching the election returns.

The president’s chief of staff was also in contact with a coterie of aides earlier in the day at the Trump campaign headquarters in Virginia, crammed into a tight space, where he was not wearing a mask as the president greeted campaign workers.

During the pandemic, Mr. Meadows has pushed for a focus on efforts to revive the economy and only sporadically wore a mask as he traveled with the president or attended some crowded events in the Oval Office.

Like Mr. Trump, Mr. Meadows often mocked reporters who wore masks around him, saying the face coverings muffled their voices. A video clip of Mr. Meadows refusing to give a statement to reporters at the Capitol because they asked him to wear his mask was widely shared across social media.

He has also been among the West Wing officials who have favored minimizing the public appearances of Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease expert, who has issued far more dire warnings about the threat of the virus than Mr. Trump has wanted to have publicly declared.

In the waning days of the presidential campaign, Mr. Meadows made unwanted headlines when he acknowledged during a television interview that the government would not be able “control” the pandemic. Critics and Mr. Trump’s political rivals seized on the comment as evidence that the administration had given up on fighting the virus.

“We are not going to control the pandemic,” Mr. Meadows told Jake Tapper, the host of “State of the Union” on CNN. “We are going to control the fact that we get vaccines, therapeutics and other mitigation areas.”

Mr. Meadows was one of few people fully briefed on Mr. Trump’s own bout of Covid-19, which the president announced on Oct. 2. He was involved in coaxing a reluctant Mr. Trump to go voluntarily to Walter Reed National Military Medical Center at a time when the president was resisting such a move but his oxygen levels had dropped and he had a high fever.

But Mr. Meadows also had a starring role in an episode that enraged Mr. Trump the day after the president was flown to the hospital. After Mr. Trump’s doctor, Sean P. Conley, did not answer questions honestly about the president’s symptoms, Mr. Meadows approached a small group of reporters in the White House pool and gave a more candid assessment that the president was not quite out of the woods.

He gave it on the assumption he would not be identified, but a C-SPAN camera captured Mr. Meadows talking to the reporters. Mr. Trump was livid when he learned that Mr. Meadows had said something revealing about his medical condition.

A few weeks later, when Mr. Short and four other aides to Mr. Pence fell ill, The Times reported that Mr. Meadows had sought to keep the information secret.

People close to Mr. Meadows insisted he had merely wanted contact tracing to take place before any information became public. But he all but confirmed in an interview with Mr. Tapper, who asked about the Times’s reporting, that he did not believe the White House should discuss the health of anyone other than the president or the vice president.

Mr. Meadows did not respond to a request for comment on Friday night. A White House spokesman also declined to comment, citing a need to maintain privacy of personnel health matters.
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Matt Gaetz has also tested positive.

Gaetz tests positive for coronavirus antibodies

Two more Florida Republican members of Congress have tested positive for Covid-19, including Rep. Matt Gaetz.

Gaetz, a close ally of President Donald Trump, said he tested positive for the virus antibodies on Election Day, a likely sign he previously contracted the virus.

“I have tested positive for antibodies,” Gaetz told POLITICO in a text message. “I have no live virus.”

He said he has no symptoms, and is not sure when he contracted the virus. Playbook first reported that Gaetz had tested positive.

He was a staple on the campaign trail for the president, including attending several in-person Florida rallies.

Gaetz has long been one of Trump’s most vocal congressional defenders, a role that has continued as mail and provisional ballots cut into and overtook Trump’s lead in several key battleground states after Election Day. In the days after the election, Gaetz has made several baseless voter fraud allegations.

Gaetz is the most recent person in Trump’s inner circle to contract the virus. News broke Friday night that White House chief of staff Mark Meadows also contracted the virus. Like Gaetz, it's unclear when Meadows contracted the illness.

In addition, Florida Republican Rep. Michael Waltz confirmed Friday night he tested positive for the virus, signalling a current infection — rather than antibodies that would suggest he had already recovered from Covid-19.

A Waltz spokeswoman said that he believes he caught it in his district, which is just south of Jacksonville, and that he is experiencing no symptoms. He is currently in a 10-day quarantine.

“I’ve purposefully tested every week, have now isolated, and reached out to people for notifications,” Waltz said in a statement. “We are fortunate all of my staff or family are fine. I encourage everyone to take appropriate precautions, particularly those in higher risk categories. I will absolutely continue to serve my district and am so very honored with the trust Floridians placed in me Nov 3rd.”

Gaetz and Waltz are the third and fourth members of the Florida congressional delegation to test positive. Others include Republicans Neal Dunn and Mario Diaz-Balart.
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NAHTMMM · Nov 7, 2020

Raoul the Red Shirt said: ↑

I get that he's a self-centered douche. It's more that even from the perspective of "what's in it for me?" being able to say "I've learned how dangerous this is, and I'm slightly changing course" would benefit him politically.
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I suspect the only ways he knows to change course are to 1) double down and 2) lash out at anyone who seems to turn against him. Strategy and, indeed, even strategery are not in his instincts.

garamet · Nov 7, 2020

NAHTMMM said: ↑

Raoul the Red Shirt said: ↑

I get that he's a self-centered douche. It's more that even from the perspective of "what's in it for me?" being able to say "I've learned how dangerous this is, and I'm slightly changing course" would benefit him politically.
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I suspect the only ways he knows to change course are to 1) double down and 2) lash out at anyone who seems to turn against him. Strategy and, indeed, even strategery are not in his instincts.
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He'll do both. Or just, if we're lucky, playcheat at golf until January.

Tuckerfan · Nov 9, 2020

Raoul the Red Shirt · Nov 9, 2020

I am really saddened by this. As a former neurosurgeon, one would have hoped that Dr. Carson would have taken the precautions necessary to protect himself. I hope he pulls through.

Jenee · Nov 9, 2020

Raoul the Red Shirt said: ↑

I am really saddened by this. As a former neurosurgeon, one would have hoped that Dr. Carson would have taken the precautions necessary to protect himself. I hope he pulls through.
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If he's positive, he should have taken precautions necessary to protect others. But, as Fauci quoted "I don't know how to explain to you why you should care about other people".

Raoul the Red Shirt · Nov 9, 2020

Jenee said: ↑

Raoul the Red Shirt said: ↑

I am really saddened by this. As a former neurosurgeon, one would have hoped that Dr. Carson would have taken the precautions necessary to protect himself. I hope he pulls through.
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If he's positive, he should have taken precautions necessary to protect others. But, as Fauci quoted "I don't know how to explain to you why you should care about other people".
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The presumption seems to be that he may have caught this at the election night function.

He was on notice that at a minimum the president and others in attendance had been infected, and one would think that he would know to either not go or to wear a mask or take other precautions. I mean, they are not going to helicopter his ass to Walter Reed if he takes a turn for the worse.

Jenee · Nov 9, 2020

Ah. I misunderstood the chain of events.

14thDoctor · Nov 9, 2020

Raoul the Red Shirt said: ↑

He was on notice that at a minimum the president and others in attendance had been infected, and one would think that he would know to either not go or to wear a mask or take other precautions. I mean, they are not going to helicopter his ass to Walter Reed if he takes a turn for the worse.
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Every single Trump supporter (especially the minorities) should be having that fact rubbed in their faces.

matthunter · Nov 9, 2020

*Wry grin*

An adviser for President Donald Trump's campaign, David Bossie, has tested positive for coronavirus only days after he was tapped to oversee the campaign's legal challenges contesting the outcome of the election, two sources confirmed to CNN.

Bossie did not immediately respond to a request for comment. He has been in the campaign headquarters in Virginia several times in the last week and has also traveled extensively.
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Tuckerfan · Nov 9, 2020

Raoul the Red Shirt said: ↑

I am really saddened by this. As a former neurosurgeon, one would have hoped that Dr. Carson would have taken the precautions necessary to protect himself. I hope he pulls through.
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Except Carson knows which side his bread is buttered on. If he had shown up wearing a mask, he'd have been subjected to endless ridicule and possibly told to remove it or leave.

garamet · Nov 9, 2020

Tuckerfan said: ↑

Raoul the Red Shirt said: ↑

I am really saddened by this. As a former neurosurgeon, one would have hoped that Dr. Carson would have taken the precautions necessary to protect himself. I hope he pulls through.
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Except Carson knows which side his bread is buttered on. If he had shown up wearing a mask, he'd have been subjected to endless ridicule and possibly told to remove it or leave.
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Bottom line: His health was worth sacrificing for the appearance of being a good little aparatchick.

Raoul the Red Shirt · Nov 10, 2020

garamet said: ↑

Tuckerfan said: ↑

Raoul the Red Shirt said: ↑

I am really saddened by this. As a former neurosurgeon, one would have hoped that Dr. Carson would have taken the precautions necessary to protect himself. I hope he pulls through.
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Except Carson knows which side his bread is buttered on. If he had shown up wearing a mask, he'd have been subjected to endless ridicule and possibly told to remove it or leave.
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Bottom line: His health was worth sacrificing for the appearance of being a good little aparatchick.
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I am not sure which would be sadder:

A) if he valued his health so low that it was worth it to knowingly take the risk of being among people he knew had been and could be infected and who would not be practicing social distancing, mask wearing or any of that, all for the purpose of brownnosing people in an administration that polls suggested probably wasn't going to last beyond January

B) if he has fallen into the category of the demon sperm doctor and the Plandemic doctor and saw coronavirus as no big deal.

Tuckerfan · Nov 12, 2020

Diacanu · Nov 20, 2020

Donnie Jr. has it!!
Ohh!! Ohh!! Ohh!!!
Aw, but he's asymptomatic.
*Sad slide whistle noise*

garamet · Nov 20, 2020

Diacanu said: ↑

Donnie Jr. has it!!
Ohh!! Ohh!! Ohh!!!
Aw, but he's asymptomatic.
*Sad slide whistle noise*
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Does he think "asymptomatic" means he can galumph around without a mask and infect more people? Probably.

Tuckerfan · Nov 20, 2020

Tuckerfan · Dec 6, 2020

Rudy’s got the Rona!

NAHTMMM · Dec 6, 2020

Rudy Giuliani will produce Georgia's weapons of mass socialism aaaany . . . daaaay . . . noooww . . .

steve2^4 · Dec 6, 2020

is "orange face" a symptom?

MikeH92467 · Dec 6, 2020

I certainly hope none of us are laughing about this...aw shit who am I kidding

Tuckerfan · Dec 6, 2020

We Are Borg · Dec 6, 2020

What does it say about America when Trump and Giuliani, two fuckwits who never took COVID seriously, go to the front of the line for treatment when they eventually contract the disease?

(Yeah, I know one's the president and the other is his lapdog, but still...)

Raoul the Red Shirt · Dec 6, 2020

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What does it say about America when Trump and Giuliani, two fuckwits who never took COVID seriously, go to the front of the line for treatment when they eventually contract the disease?

(Yeah, I know one's the president and the other is his lapdog, but still...)
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Even if Giuliani had remained out of the public sphere, the fact that he apparently has an estimated net worth of $45 million means that he gets to be insulated from most consequences. And yes, that's f'ed in the a.

Not that money alone will necessarily save you, or Herman Cain would still be with us. Of all the Republican coronavirus deniers who have been hit with it, is Cain the only one to die from it?

shootER · Dec 6, 2020

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Rudy’s got the Rona!

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garamet · Dec 6, 2020

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Some COVID patients report a loss of the sense of smell. Rudy, OTOH:

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