Trumpite Americans, when will you finally acknowledge that you’re traitorous assholes?

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  1. Steal Your Face

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    His rhetoric over immigrants, legal or otherwise, his comments on the wall or lack there of, his treatment of peaceful protesters, his over all decorum, but again, I didn’t vote for him so I don’t see why I need to answer for any of this.
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    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    I can’t speak for anyone else’s motivations.
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    The answer is obvious. Any thread in which someone reports yet another crime of which trump is accused, you immediately jump in with “what about …”.

    The other questions regarding hte documents is right along this reasoning.

    Any one thing doesn’t mean anything - especially when it could be just a lack of responsibility.

    But, when you put all those things together, it starts to paint a picture of a long list of things that could be viewed as ongoing criminal behavior.

    Let’s say someone murders you. I don’t know why, but lets say someone did. And they did all the research beforehand and left absolutely no evidence behind. Does that mean the person did not actually murder you?
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    Except trump’s?
  5. Steal Your Face

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    I’m not the one saying he took those documents intentionally to sell them to a foreign adversary.
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    Teen Dolt is being disingenuous again because he's ignoring the fact that Biden and Pence immediately returned the documents they had while Biff dug in his heels like the petulant child he is.
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  7. Steal Your Face

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    GCD is being disingenuous here because Biden had those documents for years before he turned them over, as far back as his days as a senator.
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    If you pick at a buffet of shit, guess what you get? A plate of shit.
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    Unless they have a cop uniform.
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    And you’re being disingenuous by neglecting the fact that as soon as the government asked for the documents back, Biden returned them. Trump is still illegally in possession of classified documents, it appears, as a number of them are still missing. Seems to me that if I can find those documents and turn them over, I’ll have an easier time proving my case that it was an accident that I ended up with so many documents.
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    And you are the sole arbiter of what is and is not "shit."
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    Biff Defender here keeps ignoring the main difference between the Biden/Pence document issue and his guy's.

    It would be one thing if there was nuance in the circumstances for each, but it's not.

    Pence and Biden gave back the documents when asked. The toddler in Florida did not.

    So Billy is just plain lying.
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    There's no point in my listing all the ways I oppose law enforcement. You'll just ignore it in gavor of your own one-dimensional fantasies.
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  14. Diacanu

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    Ah, the Bill Carson defense.
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    I mean, we could take it to a poll, but even if we got a trillion people from across the galaxy to say your libertarian nonsense is fertilizer, I hardly think it would sway you.
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  16. Steal Your Face

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    So what? Biden wasn’t president at the time and had them for years. Trump is covered under the Presidential Records Act. I’ve seen democrats (not leftists, huge difference) on other forums that also see this as purely political. The fact that you can’t see this shows how delusional you are and how much you’ve lost perspective because Trump is your boogeyman.
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    Trump is FUCKED under the Presidential Records Act, you myopic cunt.

    He was no longer POTUS. He was asked to return docs. He didn't and we now know he conspired to avoid saying he had anything that needed returning.

    These are not the actions of an innocent man. At best, he's a rampant narcissist who thinks the rules don't apply to him and wanted his lawyers to find him a way he could keep his trophies - at worst, they weren't just trophies but blackmail material or stuff he could use to enrich himself.
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    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Or, and I can't stress this enough, TRUMP IS LYING. He's a liar. He lies. It's what he does.

    The Presidential Records Act specifically was created after Nixon claimed that all his records were personal documents when he was under threat of impeachment before he resigned.

    It specifically says that presidential records belong to the nation, not the President.

    So if you do know Democrats that don't understand that, they are ridiculously stupid Democrats.

    Or maybe you are lying. What are the odds?
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    No he isn't (it's literally the other way around) but way to repeat your usual MAGA talking points.
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    Pence and Biden weren't even asked. They didn't have to be. They discovered the problem, reported it immediately, and did everything they were supposed to. Trump lied, denied, and obstructed every step of the way.

    The difference should be obvious to anyone with the slightest bit of intellectual honesty. It's very telling that Absolutely Not A Trump Supporter has latched onto "well, the one thing that really matters is the total length of time the documents were wherever they were," because that's the one rubric that could lead to the conclusion that Biden's are worth talking about, but Trump's and Pence's are not.
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  21. Steal Your Face

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    So two people Rob a bank. One bank robber robs the bank 15 years ago and stashes his money away. The other bank robber robs the bank just a year or two ago. Both bank robbers are famous people, but one of them is really popular and the other one is hated. The popular bank robber is friends with the chief of police. The chief of police finds out that both his friend and the unpopular guy are bank robbers. The chief of police tells his friend,”hey I know you’re a bank robber, and I’m about to bust that dude that everybody hates for robbing the bank, but to make things look fair, I think you should return the money you stole back to the bank and I can probably convince the bank to drop the charges.” The friend agrees. This is what happened.
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    No. You’re saying his motivations are innocent. We’re saying we see a pattern and that pattern points to anything but innocent. You’ve heard the phrase “where there’s smoke, there’s fire”.
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    Based off of unconfirmed Tweets anonymous sources and “sources close to the case.”
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    The fuck does that mean? You claim to have some insight into my position, so you already know at least a few ways I oppose law enforcement. Therefore you are willfully ignoring them for dishonest purposes.
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    Because I don't live by the superficial approval noises other people make. You should try it sometime.
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  26. Diacanu

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    Your Cowardly Lion "if I were the king of the fooreeeest!" strut says otherwise.
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    You can answer for your own imaginary characters. Has nothing to do with me.
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  28. Diacanu

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    Yes, the bee swarm of screaming cartoon stereotype homosexuals buzzing in your head takes massive priority.
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    Unconfirmed? Most of it comes from his own mouth!
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    The way you know FF's posts aren't AI-generated is that they contain no "I".
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