Voter Fraud Fraud

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  1. Muad Dib

    Muad Dib Probably a Dual Deceased Member

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    Because dead people vote for Democrats.
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  2. actormike

    actormike Okay, Connery...

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    The problem has stopped itself. The percentage of votes that have been found to be cast fraudulently is so statistically insignificant that it's simply not worth the time or effort to prevent it.

    The only reason to "stop the problem" is to attempt to prevent legitimate voters from voting.
  3. skinofevil

    skinofevil Fresh Meat

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    Stop with the bullshit. Why don't you want fraud-free elections?
  4. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Ah, the "When did you stop beating your wife?" ploy. I love the smell of desperation in the morning...
  5. skinofevil

    skinofevil Fresh Meat

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    Jesus, you can't even pull off a compound question without looking the fool. The compound question is, "Have you stopped beating your wife?" Engineered such that either answer is a confession of beating your wife. "When" lets the subject out without forcing an incriminating binary response choice, because the subject has a non-binary response choice of, "I never did beat my wife."

    Christ, if you're going to troll, at least have the god damned common courtesy to be good at it. At least good enough that the amateur you'll certainly claim I am isn't able to spot your mistakes.

    And to the spirit of your comment, "Why don't you want fraud-free elections?" is also not a compound question for the same reason: it invites an open-ended response rather than forcing an incriminating binary response choice.

    Next time, try to understand the tool you're about to attempt to use before you attempt to use it. Amateur.
  6. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    You have no evidence for that, since I did not post a compound question.
  7. skinofevil

    skinofevil Fresh Meat

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    Then explain the "When did you stop beating your wife? ploy." If you weren't referring to the compound question, what were you referring to?
  8. actormike

    actormike Okay, Connery...

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    "Have you stopped beating your wife?"
    "I've never beat my wife."

    You're really bad at this. Which is sad, because it kind of seems like you think it's your job.
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  9. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Q.v. Post #188.
  10. skinofevil

    skinofevil Fresh Meat

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    You put too many lobsters up your anus. See, I can just throw unsupported bullshit around, too.
  11. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    "Too"?
  12. Tamar Garish

    Tamar Garish Wanna Snuggle? Deceased Member

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    Okay....

    Let's go with there are 86 obvious frauds that we know about.

    Why is it okay for 86 people to be disenfranchised by them? And it's probably a lot more than that if we're honest about it.

    Frankly, I would rather disenfranchise people too lazy or stupid to get an ID than to disenfranchise people who actually got off their ass and went to cast a vote. People manage to remember ID to drinking or clubbing so I think if voting is important to them they will get the ID to vote.

    Of course, the funniest part of all of this is how quickly and easily Democrats admit all the lazy and stupid people vote for them. :lol:
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  13. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    What evidence is there that any one of those 86 out of 300 million disenfranchised anyone?

    And why is it okay for the proposed legislation to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of legitimate voters?
  14. Muad Dib

    Muad Dib Probably a Dual Deceased Member

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    Tamar Garish Wanna Snuggle? Deceased Member

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    That's a joke, right?

    Those 86 votes removed the power of 86 votes the opposite of whatever they voted for. That is disenfranchisement.

    People too lazy to get and ID is a choice made by idiots. Unless you would like to agree that IDs being needed to buy a gun is interfering with the constitutional right to bear arms??
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  16. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Captain X would like a word with you about violation of copyright. :bergman:

    Disenfranchising hundreds of thousands of people may be skin's idea of a joke...


    As is changing the legislation so that hundreds of thousands of legitimate voters would be barred from voting.

    I've posted that video numerous times, and you still haven't watched it, have you?

    Unless "lazy" is a code word for something else.
  17. Liet

    Liet Dr. of Horribleness, Ph.D.

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    And as you pointed out above, not one of which was a case of someone providing a false identity. Voter ID laws completely fail to address actual cases of voting fraud.

    Even if someone thinks that disenfranchising millions to go after a few score cases of voting fraud makes sense, how could someone think that disenfranchising millions in order to deliberately fail to address real cases of voting fraud makes sense unless disenfranchisement was the entire point?

    The current crop of voter ID laws are perfect analogues to the Jim Crow laws, pure and simple. The entire point is to make sure that the wrong people have a tough time voting.
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  18. skinofevil

    skinofevil Fresh Meat

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    What you really mean is, "People are well aware, particularly now, that the policies we're in favor of wreck shit on an epic scale. If we don't game the vote with hundreds of thousands of dead people, illegal aliens and felons, we won't win. We're not okay with that! Stop trying to prevent the vote from being rigged! STOP EHHHHHHH HEHHHH HEHHHHH HEHHHHHHT!" :sob:

    Tough shit.
  19. actormike

    actormike Okay, Connery...

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    And when you present proof that "hundreds of thousands of dead people, illegal aliens and felons" have actually cast votes, then I'm more than willing to listen to what you have to say.

    But since you haven't and you can't, then I say whatever.

    Whatever.
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  20. Lt. Mewa

    Lt. Mewa Rockefeller Center

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    No doubt there will always be dead registered voters.

    If you are a registered voter and you die tomorrow...you are now a dead registered voter. D'UH!
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  21. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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  22. skinofevil

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    Sure I can. As soon as voter ID is required, probably for that first election where fraudsters will assume it won't be enforced, there will be hundreds of thousands of cases of vote fraud detected.

    So I'll see your WHATEVER and raise you a PWN'D.

    Amateur.
  23. sandbagger

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    This.
  24. Liet

    Liet Dr. of Horribleness, Ph.D.

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    You're both phenomenally stupid.

    The rate at which people intentionally use guns to commit crimes is at least a few orders of magnitude higher than the rate at which people intentionally commit voting fraud, and the obvious damage from criminal use of guns is significant while the obvious damage from vote fraud is zero.
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  25. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    What will we do about the impending ID fraud?
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  26. Liet

    Liet Dr. of Horribleness, Ph.D.

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    Irrationally panic and piss ourselves, thereby convincing ourselves to vote Republican against our own interests.

    Or vote against the Republicans. It's each person's choice.
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  27. sandbagger

    sandbagger Fresh Meat

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    That's neither here nor there. We're not talking about criminals. We're talking about honest upstanding citizens who are being denied a Constitutionally enumerated right. Why do you not have a problem with that?
  28. Muad Dib

    Muad Dib Probably a Dual Deceased Member

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    Probably nothing.
  29. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    So the solution for a problem that doesn't exist wouldn't even solve the problem if it did exist? Classic Redroom fodder. This country is just stupid enough to deserve what we get.
  30. skinofevil

    skinofevil Fresh Meat

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    Or vote Libertarian -- as if the "two" party system will ever allow that to be forwarded as a viable choice.