When in Rome...

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by Volpone, Feb 7, 2008.

  1. Zombie

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    Because they have oil. It's really that simple. If the oil fields that were in Saudi Arabia were in say Haiti it is almost a guarantee that we probably wouldn't even know who Saudi Arabia was other then some country with a lot of sand in it. We sure as hell would be in Haiti though. In fact we'd probably have made Haiti and Puerto Rico states by now.

    If you want to put Saudi Arabia on Americas "ignore" list then we need to go all out with nuclear power, new technology to reduce our dependence on gas and oil, new technology to cheaply access the huge reserves in and around the United States which are much larger then the middle east but hideously expensive to gather, and of course filing the ignore resolution with the UN. ;)

    The second reason? They mess with us.
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    "Starbucks was waiting to learn more about the facts surrounding the incident, a company spokesman said.

    “Starbucks was very concerned by reports that a customer was asked to leave one of our stores and arrested,” said Brandon H. Borrman, a spokesman for the company.

    “Starbucks takes pride in respecting different cultures, and as a global company with locations in 44 countries, we recognize that religious customs, social norms and laws will vary among the communities where we work,” he said."

    In other words: "We want money"
  3. Crosis21

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    None of the things you mentioned above sound like a bad idea to me.
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    Why am I getting reminded of the Berkeley thread here?
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  5. Asyncritus

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    Regardless of Saudi Arabia, the Middle East, terrorism, or even global warming, these are all good things to do in any case.


  6. Zombie

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    True but you know how it is with Americans. We always need an excuse to do something....

    "The Moon? Who the hell cares? We'll get there eventually. Stop trying to waste taxpayer money."

    Two weeks later:

    "The Soviets put a man in space? Fuck we need a man on the moon NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:"

    ;)
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  7. Volpone

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    *sigh* I need to save this as a Word Document, so I can just paste it in, rather than retyping it every time. Better still, Lefty Dingbats: save this as a word document so that the next time you wonder why we didn't invade Iran/Syria/Saudi Arabia instead of Iraq you can just open it reread it, and avoid looking stupid for needing it explained to you again.

    Diplomacy has, to some degree, worked in dealing with Syria, Iran, and Saudi. Oh, it ain't perfect, but when we rattle our sabers, in the past they've come to the bargaining table. Diplomacy completely and utterly failed in dealing with Saddam Hussein. He refused to play ball or bargain in good faith. For over a decade he obstructed, skirted, and violated the terms of the ceasefire. It finally got to the point where the USA decided it would be less trouble to remove him from power than it was to let him remain. So they did.

    Also, there was technically a war with Iraq. There was a ceasefire, but as mentioned, Saddam was violating the terms pretty regularly. So legally, it was a lot easier to attack Iraq than it would be to attack Syria, Iran, or Saudi Arabia (who fought alongside us in Desert Storm). And, as mentioned in my first point, diplomacy works with those people. So you take that fact, along with Saddam being a pain in the ass, and by taking him out, that's a pretty big fucking reminder that, if you don't play ball, you could be next.
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