This is true in an eerie number of ways. Both are rich guys from Massachusetts, governed more by ambition than any particular guiding principles, whose approach to the presidency seems to be dominated by a sense of aristocratic entitlement, simply because it's "what's next."
One thing this thread shows very clearly is how utterly stupid are comments in various anti-Obama threads that basically say: "Well, Romney would do it, too" or "Well, Romney is just as bad if not worse." Those just aren't likely to carry a lot of weight with the supremely devoted Elephant-no-matter-what crowd we have here...
It's a recurring WF theme. "Both parties are exactly the same" is actually code for "I'm voting for someone who's not even on the ballot because I'm smarter than everyone else."
I'm not voting for Mitt Romney. But if I was an American, I would be. Because the alternative is worse.
Will the real Mitt Romney please stand up? With Obama you know what you're getting--a Clintonesque moderate without Clinton's personal baggage. That's what he's always been (anyone who's read his writings, listened to his speeches over the years or watched his performance in office should have known that from the get-go), and that's what he will always be. Romney? He started in Massachusetts as a thoughtful, pragmatic moderate, morphed into a far-righter to please the Tea Party and get the nomination, and now is trying to walk it back while at the same time embracing the most radically right wing, elitist and misogynistic platform in party history and making the honesty-impaired Paul Ryan almost as much of a senior partner as Bush 43 did with Dick Cheney. Which Romney will show up at the debates, and which Romney would show up to take the oath if he got the electoral votes? Are you ready to take the gamble? Or is that just too big a roll of the dice when it comes to America's future?
We don't know for sure what Romney would do as president. Could go good or bad. But we already know what President Obama will do. and we know it's bad.
You don't consider your vote for Obama smarter than a vote for Romney or a third party? Or is it just that your self congratulation is justified and that of others is not?
Yes, of course. Damn those niggers. I wish they all died in fires. They ought to bring back hanging coons from trees. Makes for wonderful community entertainment.
You've already been enlightened many times. Don't sit there with your eyes clenched shut and claim it's dark.
Funny, when it was Kerry's richness, it was all "eeew, ketchup fortune, ketchup fortune! Eeewheeew! Ketchup man!". ...where's that shit now?
I vote for the candidate, not the party. That said, the two parties are not the same. That's just Rightforge's alibi.
Actually, it's code for "both major parties suck ass, so I'm going to vote my conscience and try to change things."
In your case, no doubt. I've done write-in voting myself (had to explain how it worked to the poll-watchers in Staten Island once; fun times). But I'm inclined to wonder if the overweighting on Gary Johnson in Tamar's poll would have been quite as heavy if the poll weren't anonymous.
If the parties are so different then why has Obama continued all of Bush's policies and added more of the same on top of it? Even the supposed "good for the people" Obamacare was nothing more than money for insurance companies and big pharma. The troops aren't back and we even got some new places to bomb in the interim. So...how are the two parties different? Elephants want to control the bedroom and donkeys want to control the kitchen? Wow...big difference there. Even more...why does either party deserve my vote?
The economic strategies seem to me to be somewhat different. Enough to motivate a vote for Obama in a swing-state.
Why would people in swing states want to keep the national debt growing at a record pace and unemployment to remain stangnant at over 8%? Not that a President Romney is guaranteed to change that, but there's no reason whatsoever to think that another 4 years of Obama will.
I should have known someone stupid would try to conflate "I think Obama isn't quite as bad as Romney" with "I support Obama". Congratulations on it being you.
I've done no such thing, you dense tit. I've asked you a question based on your assertion that Obama's economic strategies could win him swing states. I'm asking you to substantiate that assertion based on his record. Now, if you can't do it, just say so -- or continue to deflect; either comes to the same thing.
Yes, you have. You asked why anyone would want high deficits and high unemployments. Which is not a necessary condition for one to think that Obama's policies would be somewhat less awful than Romney's.