Why Can't Americans Do Anything In Moderation?

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  1. Dayton Kitchens

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    Indeed. One of the questions asked is "Did the hospital do everything medically possible to control your pain". Doing that is all but impossible without opioids.

    Another note. The government when they ask these questions make it clear they are not "just asking". You are told flat out that if you fail to complete the surveys that you could face substantial financial penalties.
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    There are certain places where the job should be measured by different standards than the customer. My grandmother recently renewed her license. Florida gives you a chance to go to a optometrist and submit their evaluation for your eyes rather than having to go into the DMV and take an eye test. So she got her appointment at an optometrist, they tested her, they got her in and out, and she needed glasses. I was there, and it was all very quick and easy and well done. She complained about the service because "She does not need glasses." The people there could not have been any more polite to her. But no, she is going to the DMV next time because they just wanted to charge her for glasses. She is dumb as dirt too because she thinks she had her eyes fixed years ago, but they only removed cataracts and did not adjust her eyesight which the optometrist tried to explain. It is called getting old.

    But she is going to fill out the survey and teach them a lesson. Next time she has to renew I am dropping her off at the DMV and letting her argue with them when she fails her eye test. They don't have surveys to get people fired.

    You cannot judge your employees based on lying customers. I got a 4 page complaint at TWC because I was the last person the guy talked to and I fixed his problem and gave him my name and he took everything out on me. I read the complaint, all four pages, and my manager asked me if I had anything to say about it. I told her the last person he spoke to was me, and his problem was fixed because he talked to me, and I gave him my name. Perhaps you should look at who he talked to for the past month because they seem to have made him very angry, but I will take it as a compliment that I got the problem fixed when everyone else dropped the ball. Luckily she was receptive to that and I did not suffer any problems because of it.
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    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    You're still homo-sapiens though right? This idea that Americans have some inherent qualities that sets them up as fundamentally different to other humans keeps coming up from you.
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    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    There do seem to be a few people like that, with the idea that Americans are in some sense different to the rest of us.

    Fun fact, there's only one human race.
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    Clearly they did not do everything possible to control your pain because they did not cut your nerves so you would not feel anything.

    I would actually put things like that on a survey to fuck with people, but I realize that the responses will some day be scanned into a database and be used by our AI overlords and they might actually think that is a good option.
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    Thank god. I would not want this planet infestation to spread. We are like the athlete's foot of the universe considering what we are doing to the earth.
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    I was never in much pain anyway. I do remember when an experienced male nurse came by one evening and asked if he could show two young nurses in training how to change the dressing on my foot. He said it would take awhile and he was afraid it would cause considerable pain so he asked me if I wanted a dose of morphine. I figured what the hell, he sounds like he knows what he's doing so I told him to go ahead. They put it in my central line and I remember a warm feeling spreading across my chest and then I fell asleep.
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    I don't find morphine particularly amusing myself. It must do something for some people, but I do not seem to have the taste for opiods.
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    spot261 I don't want the game to end

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    Ultimately the most effective form of pain relief is usually execution.
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    Not necessarily. I've taught a unit about executions to a Civics class and I've found if you do the research many if not most methods of execution are agonizingly painful. Even lethal injection.
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    Perhaps it's something about British humour which doesn't translate well, I don't know.
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    Oh, so you read my suicide note.
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    wow...
    who'd have thought that Dayton has more experience using heroin derivatives than I do?
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    So if we insist on having capital punishment, why don't we make it death by heroine overdose?
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    If you've studied capital punishment you would find that the methods have less to do with reducing the pain of the condemned than not causing the executioners and other onlookers excessive emotional and mental distress.

    IIRC one of the reasons the Nazis introduced the gas chambers and crematoriums was that they found out that killing Jews (and others) in the death camps by more conventional means (guillotines, hanging, gunfire) was ruining the guards and soldiers. Making them unfit for future duties.
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    Why would a heroine overdose put more stress on the executioner and/or onlookers than a three drug cocktail that, according to you (and I have no reason to doubt you), causes a lot of pain?
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    Just reminding you that you are asking an idiot to lie to you and tell you what he has no idea about.
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    Yes, please. :drool:


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    yes, there is only one human race.....and hundreds of different cultures! :shrug: It's called diversity -perhaps you've heard of it! If you are saying US culture is just like British culture which is just like Uzbekistani culture, etc etc I'm calling bullshit.
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    I had morphine for a few days after surgery in 2004. It gets the job done, but messes up your pooping since it affects your smooth muscle function thus your bowel movements.

    But I never knew about the "survey" racket Elwood & Dayton described. Man that is fucked up. :no:
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    well if we ever encounter any we'll find out if it translates well. ;)
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    Which still doesn't mean you're inherently more inclined than others to not take things in moderation. Humans as a species are generally bad at impulse control, it just gets channeled in different directions.
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    I'm thinking one method of execution causing stress for the executioners and witnesses would be getting torn apart by hungry tigers. Also it might not be too cost effective so I doubt if we'll be seeing that anytime soon.
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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    you are welcome to your opinion I guess. I don't have to agree with it.
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    That's a strikingly moderate attitude for an American. :chris:
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    I have, and that's bullshit.
    Exhibit A: Tables of Drop. Compiled to ensure instantaneous death vs strangulation or accidental beheading.

    Exhibit B: the guilliotine. Designed for perfect and clean decapitation. The angled blade was a later refinement to create even less resistance to the nano second of slicing.

    Both of those come after centuries of "advancements" in execution... you know? fun shit like disembowelment, drawing and quartering, being broken upon the wheel, whether to be beheaded by axe or sword (and the social hierarchical cultural distinctions between Britain and the continent), and of course being burnt at the stake.

    Fun fact, during the era of stake burning, a "mercy" would be to tie a small sack of gunpowder around the condemned's neck.
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    Hanging is actually an example in favour of Daytons point.

    Someone slowly strangling is distressing to watch, as is someone's head popping off their body.

    If I was going to be hanged I would prefer a very long drop that would decapitate me over one just the right length to hopefully break my neck.
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