Women and big government

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by Ward, Oct 25, 2007.

  1. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Ad hominem attack.
  2. Jenee

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    Then discuss the fucking topic and stop saying stupid shit.
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  3. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    You made the claim that it didn’t affect the budget. So I repeat, if it doesn’t affect the budget, then I don’t need to be taxed for it. I don’t understand what’s so stupid about that statement?
  4. Jenee

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    The stupidity is that the answer is already there.

    The sky is blue.
    No, it's way your eyes see the light of the sun as it comes through the atmosphere.
    What color do your eyes see?
    Blue.
    The sky is blue.

    Stop being stupid.
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  5. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    It's worth pointing out--and I'm sure if Garamet wasn't aware of this in '07, she likely was by the time she passed on--tbat the biggest motivator for the US to give women the right to vote was to cancel out the make black vote and have more white people to vote in more white supremacy shit.

    Ain't 'Murica great? :cool:
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  6. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    That's really overstating it. The Suffrage groups split over the 15th Amendment. One group under Susan B Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton opposed the 15th amendment. But that wasn't because it gave black men the vote - they were both bonafide abolitionists, but because it gave black men the vote without also giving women the vote. I'm sure you can find plenty of racist rhetoric in the day trying to appeal to Southern women as it was a national issue - you can find the same from Lincoln before his election. There was a lot of bitterness among the suffragette movement because they were told they had to wait by the Republicans to get the vote when it was being given to all men of any color, but none for women. And wait they did - for another 50 years. Neither Stanton or Anthony lived to see it.

    The Daughters of the Confederacy had a very prominent role in the suffragette movement. They were against it. As good Christian women they believed that the vote was unnecessary, as the Bible told them to be subservient to their husbands.
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  7. Spaceturkey

    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    we have this



    keeping in mind that "Janey Canuck" was pretty much early war on drugs mixed with yellow peril or white man's burden of bringing civilization to the red savages.

    Oh, and she was a eugenics fan who's legislation led to decades of forced sterilization.
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  8. Jenee

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    Canada, US, England, Spain, Belgium .... basically, any country in which humans reside, has it's own share of atrocities. Accepting that, and not just accepting, but making intentional steps to be better people is the only way for the human race to move forward. and if anyone says the human race is doomed or cannot or will not move forward, then shut up and get the hell out of the way and let others attempt.
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