X-Men Days of Future Past

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  1. Paladin

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    Random thoughts...

    The movie is pretty good. Mostly as good as First Class, but hitting some higher highs (and scoring one really big high).

    I imagine this film will be quite confusing to those who haven't watched the other X-Men films.

    Contrary to earlier expectations, Quicksilver is portrayed exceptionally well. His big scene is not only the best in the movie, it's one of the most fun sequences in all of comic book adaptations. Just beautifully executed. You enjoy it so much, you want to watch it again as soon it's over. If DC ever does The Flash on the big screen, they'll need to top this. And I loved the throwaway reference to Quicksilver's heritage...

    Magneto's supposed involvement in the JFK assassination doesn't go where you think it will. There's a nice little reversal of your expectations there.

    Much to the delight of many fans of the X-Men series...

    Also, kinda paradoxically...

    The scenes where Blink creates "portals" are stunning, and I was often left with a "did I just see what I thought I saw?" feeling. I want to watch this again to make sure I caught all the really great details.

    The post-credits stinger may mean something to you if you've read Age of Apocalypse. To everyone else, it's a "huh?" moment.

    Doesn't displace Captain America: The Winter Soldier as the year's best comic book adaptation, but it comes very close.

    7.5/10.
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  2. Dr. Drake Ramoray

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    So Logan gets his adamantium claws back?
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  4. RickDeckard

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    Seen it. Reasonable. Watching Jennifer Lawrence prance around nearly naked will never get old.

    I'd seen the previous movies (except the Wolverine ones) and still had some trouble keeping up. I definitely thought there were some continuity goofs.

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    Time in a Bottle!
    LOL!

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  7. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    "Still leaves the glaring age disparity between Rebecca Romijn and Patrick Stewart in the earlier films..."

    simple.
    If you can shape shift why would you ever show your age?
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  8. Paladin

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    Heh. That hadn't occurred to me.
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    Good film. Effectively reboots all the other movies, bar First Class and parts of Origins: Wolverine, so a new world is at play.


    The time-travel element was effective, especially as it meant the future plot could go along at the same pace, which usually doesn't make any sense, but did here.

    The only downside to that method is we were robbed of seeing Fassbender and McKellen face off, that would be a true battle royale, one between young and old Magnetos.

    Quicksilver was standout, and they really ought to consider a movie for him.

    The post credits scene was meh. Had it been a little longer, a little meatier, yeah, that would've been worth staying behind for, but it sets up the already announced sequel. Just not worth sitting through a pile of credits for.

    We didn't get to see enough Dinklage though.

  10. Zor Prime

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    Awesome movie! The only flaw I can think of is that the movie is very continuity heavy. If you haven't seen the other films yet, don't even bother with this one. You'll never figure out what's going on. I suppose that's the problem with any long running franchise...

    Can't wait to see the next one... I've wanted to see a live action Apocalypse ever since the first X-Men movie came out.

    Too bad John Colicos is no longer around. He did some great voice acting for Apocalypse in the animated series. His vocal performance was memorable and I still associate his voice with the character when I read the comics...

    I wonder where in the timeline the next one will take place and which cast they will use. I'm sure they will make every effort to bring Jennifer Lawrence back, especially since she can play Mystique at any age, as Nova mentioned upthread.

    Apparently Channing Tatum has been cast to play Gambit. The guy who played Gambit before wasn't awful, but his role was small and the movie itself was a forgettable mess...

    I know that this movie basically wipes X3 out of continuity, but what about X1 and x2?

    If I had to rank all the movies so far:

    1) X-Men 2
    2) X-Men
    3) X-Men: Days Of Future Past
    4) X-Men: First Class
    5) The Wolverine
    6) X-Men 3
    7) X-Men Origins: Wolverine
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  11. Sean the Puritan

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    Nothing post-1973 is the same, so clearly all of the X-Men movies except for First Class and X-Men Origins: Wolverine (at least parts anyway) are done away with.
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    Sorry, have to disagree with your overall assessment.

    I liked Capt. America: TWS, a fun movie. But X-Men is totally superior. Describing this epic as "pretty good" is criminal. The extent to which this film succeeds in tying together all the previous films is stunning. The stakes are very real. The sentinels are actually pretty scary (not an easy task to accomplish when you know you're just watching a CGI cartoon). Quicksilver is a great character, I wish there had been more of him. But as he's portrayed here, he's just a goofy kid who helps out because he sees it as a fun challenge, not because he cares about mutant revolution.

    This is far and away the best movie I've seen in a long time.
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    Will I certainly liked X-DoFP, I can't agree that it was superior to CA:TWS.
    That is of much greater importance to an X-Men fan more than to a casual moviegoer, and though I am one of the former, I try to evaluate films as one of the latter. I agree that the film DID do a great job creating a new sort of continuity.
    They were well done, sure, but nothing we haven't really seen before. Another critic--I forget which--compared them to a mashup of the T-1000 from T2 and the Destroyer from Thor. The thing that MOST impressed me about the Sentinels is how Blink went about fighting them.
    Totally agreed.
    Yes, and as such, you sorta have to acknowledge that he's a cool thing that's inserted at this point in the story just to facilitate the plot. His significance to the story starts with Wolverine saying "I know a guy..." and ends about 10 minutes later with Quicksilver left behind as the main characters fly off to Paris. If for some reason they couldn't have used Quicksilver, his entire portion of the plot could be quickly re-written for some other cool mutant. He was the means of getting Magneto out of prison and, once that task was done, the plot had no more need for him.

    And I can certainly forgive that because he winds up being the coolest part of the movie. His scene is the movie's high point. Not that everything that follows is bad, it's just that none of it rises to that same level.

    The Quicksilver scene had a huge thing that's been missing from a lot of the oh-so-serious modern comic adaptations: pure, unadulterated fun.
    Again, liked it a lot. It's certainly better than The Amazing Spider-Man 2. But CA:TWS has still got my top spot for the year...
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    Boy, Marvel sure is doing nice this summer!

    Captain America: The Winter Soldier
    The Amazing Spider-Man 2
    X-Men: Days of Future Past
    The Guardians of the Galaxy

    True, not all the movies were produced under the Marvel Studios banner... but Marvel stills own all those properties and will surely profit from all the associated merchandise and comic sales...

    Meanwhile, DC has nothing to show off this summer and their big BvsS movie is still two years from release!
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    Just got back from it.

    Pretty much what everyone else said, especially...

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  16. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    I thought it was good, not great. Maybe I was just too tired, because I saw it at the midnight show when it was being released.

    Seemed to drag at points, had lots of things I'd nitpick.


    I think overall, I would have been happier if they had split it into two movies and been able to show, not just tell, about the rise of the Sentinels at a reasonable pace and get to know the future X-Men in more detail. Like a bunch of them, you would definitely have to be an X-fan to recognize or know what they were about.

    Re: the final post-credit scene

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    How do you really know?
    Do you know the nuts and bolts of how her powers actually work?
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    Right!

    I had a discussion with a friend of mine the other day and he said he didn't like the film. When I asked him why, his response was all...well...nitpicks like this.

    "That's not Kitty's power!" Well, says who? Aren't phasing and...what she does in the film...at least conceivably related? Would it have been less of an issue if the film had just used some other mutant with this power?

    I thought this new ability of Kitty's was well set up. They didn't just bring it up when it was needed by the plot. We saw it in action--with its limitations--well before that.
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    It was good, but not as good as First Class. Such a shame Matthew Vaughn didn't direct.
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    Finally got around to seeing this. Was entertained. One of my gauges of an action movie is how long it takes before I find myself thinking about the plot holes (another is if I start looking at my watch during the film).
    After all this time, Patrick Stewart is finally showing his age.
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    Finally saw X-men:DoFP this past weekend (a Redbox rental). Enjoyed it.

    Quick question - Quicksilver was obviously in the flick. I assume the chick who was casting the portals during the "near future" fight scenes against the Sentinels was The Scarlet Witch, but not positive (IMDB didn't list such a character...)

    So are those two the same characters that will be in Avengers: AoU? That'd be the first X-men/Avengers crossover that I'm aware of in the MCU.
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    No, the chick casting portals was a character called Blink.
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  28. Phoenix

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    First of all, DOFP may be my favorite superhero movie ever.
    Secondly, RE: Quicksilver & Scarlet Witch....This is gonna be complicated...
    Both Fox & Marvel/Disney own the film rights to those two characters. Fox because they are mutants, Marvel/Disney because of their long association with The Avengers. In the Fox/X-Men universe, they are mutants, possible children of Magneto. In the MCU they cannot be either (because Fox yadda yadda yadda). My guess is Quicksilver & Scarlet Witch are going to be Inhumans. It looks like the MCU is replacing mutants with inhumans in their stories. It's still not known if Quicksilver & Scarlet Witch are going to be even named as such in the upcoming Avengers: Age of Ultron movie.
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    Quicksilver & Scarlet Witch will be in Avengers, however they will not be referred to as "mutants" and no mention will be made of Magneto as their father. Why is this? Because Marvel doesn't own the movie rights to "mutants."
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    Marvel toyed with idea of replacing mutants with Inhumans for about 5 minutes before realizing fans were never going to accept it. They also realized that further mucking up the comic book universe in an attempt to sabotage marketing efforts for movie properties they don't own the rights to was self-defeating. So no, Inhumans aren't going to become the new X-Men.