Yes, Virginia... the Alt-Right are indeed a bunch of fucktards

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  1. Zombie

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    #1 Antifa has been carrying weapons for as long as they have been around. Even when there isn't a "Nazi" group in the area you can be sure Antifa has weapons. Just look at their videos.

    #2 If the police had been allowed to do their job, like they currently are in Dallas, the two groups would have never come in contact with each other. You have a mayor who purposely told the police to stand down. There are reports of the police standing by and watching both groups fight with each other. The police would have also done their best to keep cars out of the area.

    #3 The Mayor who was pissed off at the judge for over-ruling his decision to cancel the Nazi protest than granted two more permits for counter-protests that were basically right next to the Nazi group.

    #4 The Nazi group, as big as assholes they are, were basically herded by the police directly into the counter-protest area when the police suddenly cancelled their right to protest even though a court said they could. That's how the two groups met.

    #5 You don't need baseball bats, bricks, sticks, helmets, pepper spray, and other things to be used as weapons if all you're going to do is protest peacefully. Those things are brought because you want to fight. That applies to both sides.

    The argument that the counter-protesters had to be armed because..... Nazis! is a false argument. The Nazi group could have shown up naked with absolutely nothing in their hands and the Antifa group would still have shown up with weapons and been violent.

    Antifa doesn't get a pass on this just because the other side was filled with Nazi assholes.
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    That's... what she said?
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  3. Zombie

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    I agree.

    But can you agree that large groups of people carrying makeshift weapons and who are in a hostile mood towards a different group of protesters and show up with the intent to confront that other group of protesters are not there for peaceful counter-protests?
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    None of that answers my question, but please, continue rambling about how terrible the counter-protesters were.
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  6. Zombie

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    Were they behaving badly? You missed what happened the night got before? It wasn't just the idiot nazis making trouble.
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  7. Zombie

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    Of course they only have 14 posts. They are an echo chamber. Hard to sustain a topic when everyone agrees on everything.

    Wordforge is not an echo chamber.
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    I see from Heather Heyer's FB page that she was a Bernie supporter. My hat's off to the fucker who ran her down.

    Plus, she was grotesquely fat, so I imagine it was hard for her to dodge a Dodge.
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  9. Fisherman's Worf

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    Those specific protesters? Or generally?
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    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    Wordforge is not an echo chamber.
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    ...an echo chamber....
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  12. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    Yeah...but it looked to me like the guys with bats jumped in after the guy ran over people. I didn't see the victims holding any weapons. :shrug:
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    You misunderstand me.

    I'm not talking about the car. I'd hit the car too if I was there after he ran people over.

    No one attacked the car before he did what he did. The driver did that on his own.

    I'm pointing out that in the melee last night they had weapons and the day of the car running them over they had weapons. They didn't bring those weapons for self defense. They were spoiling for a fight with the Nazi shit heads.
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    There were definitely people there to whom that applies, but I don't see how you can generalise that to every counter-protester or the victims here.
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  16. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    I don't think anyone is denying that there were a lot of Antifa thugs there. That doesn't mean that the victims were Antifa.
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    It also doesn't mean that literal American Nazis were any more justified in their livid anger over a Confederate monument being taken down.

    There's no "two sides of the same coin" here.
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  18. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    Here's a statue I don't think anybody would mind being torn down. The pro-Confederacy types hate it as much as the Leftists.

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  19. Fisherman's Worf

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    What do you have against Don Quixote?
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    Ah, yes. The fiberglass statue of Nathan Bedford Forrest near Nashville. I've heard fiberglass burns nicely, but I haven't had a chance to experiment to see if that's true or not.
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    I am trying to tell are you really this ignorant or are you just pretending to be stupid? Yes, there are numerous reports of Antifa starting the violence just as they always do.

    Remember back to when I said both sides are fucktards and you neg repped me? Yeah, they really are both violebt pieces of shit even if you idebtify with one of the sides.
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    Left wing Mayors ordering the police to stand down whenever antifa shows up is kind of a thing.



    That's from the infamous "battle of Berkley" where that guy was hit on the head with a bike lock.

    As for the C-ville events, I agree with trump condemning both sides, as both sides are equally repugnant, racist and violent.

    I'm going to leave the video Sargon made on the topic here because his thoughts on the matter I think, are pretty spot on.


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  23. Steal Your Face

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    It's just a bad statue, never mind that it's Nathan Bedford Forrest.
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    "In the left corner we have violent thug number one while in the right corner we have violent thug number two... But Anna says they aren't the same and are totally different... Some how."
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    The difference is one of them is a FUCKING NAZI and the other is not. :jayzus:
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    You can't possibly be that stupid they are both violent pieces of shit. Stalin killed millions, Hitler killed millions, they both were shit stains.

    Why can't you admit that simple truth?
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    If we can generalize one asshole in a car running over and killling someone and generalize that because of that asshole and the other Nazi assholes that every single white person whose not a leftist is a Nazi than we can generalize it to every counter-protester is a weapon wielding nut.
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    Who here is saying any white person that's not left of center is a Nazi? :wtf:
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    Not even close to the same thing. First, antifa aren't Stalinists, they're closer to anarchists. Second, they are a tiny minority of those who stand opposed to alt-right nationalist Nazi hate. Third, their national political influence is minimal, unlike the alt-right Nazis with their enabler in the White House.

    EDIT: and might I add, when it came time to choose sides between Stalin and Hitler, the United States chose Stalin and it was the right decision.
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    And?
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