Yet another reason we need to rid ourselves of the TSA...

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/report-woman-got-loaded-gun-past-tsa-141712196.html

What a completely useless agency. They'll confiscate your baby formula or your iPad, but they can't find a loaded pistol?

The last time I flew, they found a swiss army knife keychain in my book bag (that I forgot I had in there) and took it from me.

If they could find something the size of my thumb, they should easily be able to find a gun-shaped object in a woman's purse.

Wow, a civilian carried a gun on a plane without the gun going crazy, shooting all the passengers and crew, and bringing the plane down in a fiery cascade of molten aluminum.

Think of the odds!

She already got away with it. She just should have kept her yap shut.

But yeah, the TSA is as worthless as tits on a bull.

You're right. We should just allow everyone to carry on planes. What could possibly go wrong?

Yeah, we can't allow that to happen. Terrorists might get shot!!!

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Wait, there are actually people out there that think people should be allowed to carry on planes?'

I did not know that.

Ya... and a whole quarter of the other passengers sitting around them. Or they could blow a hole in the side of the plane during flight trying to shoot a terrorist. Nothing says safety like sudden depressurization at 40,000 feet. Or the terrorist themselves might decide to bring their own weapons on and attempt a hijacking. Those bullet proof cockpit doors won't do any good if the pilot has to do what the men holding the crew and passengers hostage say or they will start executing people.

You're right. Lets allow guns on planes. This makes sense.

Terrorists would be less likely to target airplanes cause then they wouldn't know which passengers are packing heat.

I'd trust 80 well-armed passengers over a terrorist with a box cutter any day of the week.

Again... firing a weapon in such tight, crowded quarters is just asking for trouble. The last thing we want is any kind of shootout on an airplane. I trust that 80 passengers can overpower any terrorist. Just because a gun slipped through this time doesn't mean one is going to slip through most of the time. I'll take my chances that if one does that the air marshal on board can handle it and if not then me and some of the other passengers will give it a try.

What if we allowed, say, everyone who had a license to carry on planes?

Huh, "made it safe" as if it wasn't...

How about one drunk passenger with a gun who thinks the guy in the turban next to him muttering a prayer to Allah is a shoe bomber and is gonna by God do something about it? You think that's a good idea?

I'm for the right to bear arms, but allowing guns on planes would be madness.

I'd rather take my chances with the terrorist with a boxcutter... hasn't anyone here seen the Twilight Zone?

Right, because that's all legal gun owners are to your ilk, just a bunch of drunken baffoons with no common sense.

No we don't need a bunch of guns on planes. That doesn't mean that the TSA isn't a a bunch of hyperventilating perverted thieves that need to be given their walking papers.

That is obviously how it would happen if it were to happen. It's still not a good idea though. If people want to check a gun and have it travel with the bags in the belly of the plane that's fine by me. I do not want anyone to carry other than an Air Marshal.

If you shoot and miss think of the possible outcomes, directly shot passengers, bullets bouncing around the cabin until they hit someone, or a hole in the side of a plane. You could even hit your target and the bullet could pass through and hit someone else. It's just not a good idea. We aren't exactly having problems with hijackers taking over planes right now so I don't think the "benefit" of some licensed carriers out weighs the potential safety hazard that is created by introducing more guns to a small enclosed flying capsule full of people.

Why would the terrorist have a box cutter and not a gun? And why wouldn't there be 20 of them instead of 1?

When did I say that? But it only takes one yahoo with a piece and a junior G-man badge to bring down a plane.

Read what you posted, shitknuckle.

Shouldn't you be off saving the white race or something?

How about one depressed pilot deciding to hammerhead stall a 747? How about a maniac on a plane with a gun and no one to resist him? How about a terrorist with a bomb?

For as many nightmare scenarios you can think of where the presence of a gun creates a problem, there are as many scenarios where the absence of one allows a problem.

The drunk passenger who's carrying a gun and decides to shoot the turban-wearing passenger next to him is just another version of the "every fender bender will turn into a gunfight" scare meme that comes out when people carrying guns is an issue. It just doesn't happen; statistically, revocation of carry licenses are rare for ANY reason, and exeedingly rare for violent misconduct.

@ the idea an armed passenger would have the time to stop your depressed pilot... by the way that is a serious problem. It's happened how many times now? It is definitely time to arm the passengers to prevent that nightmare from ever happening again!

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Not to mention that passengers can't get into the cockpits because their behind locked doors now (something that would've prevented the 9/11 attacks, BTW).

Yeah. This pilot is one of them.

More evidence that the TSA are too busy freaking out about your toothpaste and eyeing up your junk.

Why on Earth would you do something like that? Most concealed carriers have more that a couple IQ points; wonder how frequent it is that people go by with undetected weapons but manage to keep their traps shut.

Has that ever happened? What good would someone with a gun do? Don't kill yourself or I'll shoot you?

Has that ever happened? I'm more concerned with the drunk or careless than the maniac.

That has happened, and it's been dealt with by the passengers. Who didn't have guns.

The absence of a gun doesn't allow a problem to occur. The problem would have occurred no matter what.

I don't think every drunk passenger with a gun would be a problem. But it only takes one to bring down a plane full of people. The risk is great, and the benefits are virtually none.

Then I'm glad you don't make the rules.

That's not what I was suggesting. You missed the point.

The point was that there are many, many catastrophic situations that could occur NOW, but the risk of them occurring is accepted simply because they've very, very rare. And so too would it be with licensed people carrying handguns.

Perhaps we could've avoided the whole industry of flying 70 years ago if someone simply said "But, wait! The pilot may be depressed and fly us into the ground!" Maybe everyone would've said "That's too terrible a possibility to contemplate! Let's not fly!"

I wasn't suggesting that armed passengers would or could stop such a thing. I'm saying such a thing is real--similar things HAVE happened--but you accept THAT risk without a moment's thought.

She did land in New Jersey, sooner or later the cops were gonna put her against the wall for an 'unsafe' firearm.

But yeah, I'da kept my mouth shut.