Yet another reason we need to rid ourselves of the TSA...

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  1. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    It's a good thing she didn't fly into NYC, or else she'd be up for a felony charge. :jayzus:
     
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  2. Tex

    Tex Forge or die. Administrator Formerly Important

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    Ya... One risk (crazy suicidal pilot) I have to accept in order to fly. The other, CHL passenger introducing the slightest risk of discharged bullets on the plane is not necessary for me to fly from point A to point B. Name a single case of a pilot crashing a passenger jet in an act of suicide? Go ahead, I will wait. Even if you found an example, which you won't, I deem that a necessary risk to fly anywhere.
     
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  3. Paladin

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    EgyptAir Flight 990 is one case.

    Silk Air Flight 185 is another probable suicide.

    So, there's two. :shrug:

    And if you want something more recent and/or American...

    Although he didn't SUCCEED in crashing the plane, there is the recent JetBlue case where the pilot went nuts and tried to crash it.

    Only bothered with this to show you were wrong. Certainly not to prove anything to you because you already said you even if I prove you wrong your mind was already made up.
     
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  4. Tex

    Tex Forge or die. Administrator Formerly Important

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    So two maybes and a none suicide? Even if we assume the 2 maybes are actual cases of suicide what does that make the odds of suicidal pilot? 2 in 20 or 30 million? What happens when we introduce armed passengers to flights? Odds are at least one to two will be carrying on every single flight. Eventually that will cause an issue that otherwise wouldn't have occurred had we never introduced firearms to flights in the first place. And that will happen before the next or possibly first suicide pilot, that is a statistical certainty.
     
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  5. Marso

    Marso High speed, low drag.

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    Now think about it, Tex. :bailey:

    What are you lately? Anc Jr?
     
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  6. Tex

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    Passenger jet? No. And go ahead and throw that one in there with the maybes and we are still at 3 in who knows how many million flights. And we are again counting a none suicide pilot just to give your side a talking point. There is no good argument that introducing firearms to air travel will somehow make flying safer.

    Btw what I am is a person capable of original thought and not just regurgitation of Fox News talking points. Either debate me with facts and statistics or name call, one says you're a reasonable opponent like Paladin and the other makes you the mental equivalent of Sokar and let's me know I've won. You make the call, Captain.
     
  7. Volpone

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    Here's a counter-argument: Prior to D.B. Cooper hijacking an airplane it was actually easy--allowed even, I think--to bring a gun on an airplane. How many incidents were there in the millions and millions of flights leading up to that point?
     
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    Who was it that said to 'professionalize' we need to 'federalize'? Then there was the CBS crew that "left" a cell phone in luggage as a tempt. It worked. TSA agent stole it. CBS found the 'federalized' theif at home, and now he's out of a job. Piece of shit crook oughta be in jail. 'Federalized' jail that is. Is there no screening? Makes me want to fly "The Friendly Skies". I'm surprised the worthless TSA agents can even USE a phone.
     
  9. Paladin

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    Two maybes? Gee, I guess I'd have to find a case where a captain says "I'm committing suicide now" and its picked up on the black box. And you completely gloss over the "non-suicide" EVEN THOUGH IT WAS A REAL ATTEMPT.

    You don't have to agree with me, Tex. But you defied me to name even one case and I brought you two. And a third that could be classified an "almost."
    And, eventually, an issue will occur that armed passengers might've been able to prevent, too. :shrug:
     
  10. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    :dayton: Yes, because voter ID laws would have stopped those--oh wait, this is the wrong thread about statistically insignificant things that happen. My bad.

    (flying is one of the safest modes of transportation statistically speaking, we just tend to overreact when one big incident happens)