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Interestingly, when you search WF for the phrase "Worse than Hitler" most of the results are quoting you or Paladin using those words.

@Tuttle why put a winner rep on this when it undermines your own "case"?

Spot Conway is your mother!

Damn, so it was incest?

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Kinda depends how that stacked SC votes, doesn't it? Almost like all those checks and balances that you went "meh" about losing because "OMG guns and abortion!!" were there for a fucking reason...

For the record, he is doubling down on this shit and SOMEONE at the White House or his inner circle is passing him notes:

Now, the Act says he can impose trade restrictions if there's a state of emergency and there is some Congressional oversight of this, but the GOP aren't likely to stand up to him. And if he forces it through anyway we're reliant on his SC to have some balls. Sadly, they're distinctly lacking on the right-wing side of the bench, even if RBG can use hers as Space Hoppers.

Got schizoid like those to g0r; in new zeeland?

I agree, it's unlikely many major businesses will act on this unless there's some tangible machinery put in place to enforce it.

However, does the fact he's come out with this at all not set your spidey senses tingling with regard to tyranny? Not even just a little bit?

You have the concentration camps (or at least the early stages of them), you have the snatch squads, you have the violence in the streets, you have the delusional but charismatic leader, you have the demonised outsiders, you have the blurring of lines between church and state, you have the machinations to bring an armed populace onside, now you have clear noises about executive control over industry.

What exactly would you need short of black clad stortroopers marching along the street?

It hasn't affected him personally yet. Hell, it might help a business he's invested in, so he might be okay with tyranny that gives him a boost.

Im not sure where the cheaper labor would move to either, but what he said about China was true. At some point you have to stop kicking that can down the road and start doing something about a trade partner who not only robs you, but also doesn't keep their end of the agreements.

Like the US?

Prior to the current trade war with China what trade agreement has the U.S. violated?

I reckon he's talking about the JCPOA...although that wasn't exactly a trade deal.

The Iranian nuclear agreement?

Still not binding upon the United States unless it is presented to the U.S. Senate as a treaty and ratified by the Senate.

Whatever technicality you draw on to legalise it away, the US is notorious for not keeping their end of deals.

That has been a basic part of the U.S. Constitution since the U.S. Constitution was first ratified by the required number of states. EVERY nation on Earth knows about this feature of U.S. governance (or should).

I would not call that a mere "technicality".

Still, we busted a deal...and you know Aunty Entity says...

Duh, because we see *leftist* news sources, not just right. And Leftforge has been consistently wrong about their Trump hysteria since before he was even elected, along with those who told leftforge what to think in the first place. The Right certainly doesn't think there's even been a hint of anything akin to Hitler since Trump, other than in the fevered imaginings.

And Spot, you infer way too much, I never suggested Trump's tweet is remotely meaningful in any way other than trolling the left, and influencing opinion of companies with manufacturing in China. His "order" can have no legal effect.

You seem to be agreeing. Most nations do know that making deals with the US in no way means those deals have any long term stability.

On the contrary. Plenty of deals the U.S. has made have been stable for the long term. But you can't just see whoever is the U.S. president shows up, signs something and then holds a congratulatory news conference that it means its a done deal as far as the U.S. is concerned.

I would, else what grounds do you have for viewing others as unreliable for behaving similarly?

If the US can back out on deals made or fail to honour commitments because of a question of internal processes then the same applies to her partners.

Then re read your own posts, youve repeatedly made it sound as though you expect this to have a meaningful impact.

Like was said, we seem to be in agreement that you're saying we shouldn't put much stock in the words and actions of whoever you have chosen to represent you.

Both can be true.
Trump's "order" would be found to have no legal effect, if it makes it to the courts on any meaningful level.

And US manufacturers will (and have been) adjust their China investment according to a new post-Trump reality, including relocating some manufacturing out of China that already exists. Certainly no responsible decision maker will regard a decision on whether or not to build a new factory in China the same today as they would have three years ago. And Trump just nudged that needle further away from China investment.

The veil has been lifted. China isn't just a thief, cheater and liar on global trade. China is also willfully killing tens of thousands of americans each year by refusing to terminate fentanyl exports (specifically, by executing the exporters).

We've already got the black clad stormtroopers marching along the street.



But all the other stuff you mentioned is nonsense and shows that you're an idiot.

We don't have concentration camps. We don't have snatch squads. We do have violence in the street thanks to Antifa.

Delusional but charismatic leader? Nope. He's a troll. A good one. He gets you lefties screaming over everything. He'd be fantastic on Wordforge.

You have the demonized outsiders? Illegals don't belong here. Sorry. Deal with it.

You have the blurring of lines between church and state? With Trump? I'm not seeing it. Does the guy even go to church? The first POTUS to support gay marriage before he became POTUS? Not even Obama can lay claim to that one. I just don't see this blurring that you see.

You have the machinations to bring an armed populace onside? Got news for you. Even if Hillary had won those armed populace would still be arming. I fear that this country at this point is in a Cold Civil War and we are only a few incidents away from a hot one. Doesn't matter whose POTUS except that if Trump is POTUS in 2020 that may delay it a few more years but if a nut like Warren or Harris or Clinton wins it may happen sooner.

Now you have clear noises about executive control over industry? It's time to pull out of China. You want to talk about concentration camps? China has them. They have millions of people in those camps. China is evil. China is attempting to become a global hyperpower where it calls all the shots. That means control of trade, internet, the media, entertainment, and anything else it can lay it's hands on. Trump can't order any company to leave China but he can sure as hell cut all trade with China. So any smart company with a brain in it's head should already be looking for the exits. Besides China is stealing from everyone in the West. Not just America but all of Europe too. China let's these companies in the door and it steals everything and than those companies find they have new Chinese competitors. It's the height of stupidity that these companies still want to do business in a country like China.

If those internal processes are actually written in their constitutions and are publicly known to all parties involved.

Why then have the signing if it might not be honoured?

So apart from the magical delusion that your concentration camps aren't concentration camps, you're saying you agree that each other part except for the church/state blurring is happening, only you support it in each case. I bet the same is true about the camps; you wouldn't say that they don't exist, or that the prisoners are free to leave, or that they are enjoying due process, or humane living conditions; you would just find a reason to support that treatment of "illegals".