Can I troll people with their personal information now?

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  1. 14thDoctor

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    There's a hell of a big difference between talking shit on the internet and calling someones employer to accuse them of being a pedophile.
  2. K.

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    Indeed, in as much as the latter is a crime. I think Scorp is right to say that that's up to the police.
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    Does going to the police erase the damage done to a persons career and reputation?
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    In most cases, I would hope so. The career, at least, should not be toppled by an anonymous caller making unfounded allegations, Reputation can be trickier, but is this a WF-specific problem? Slander is one of many crimes that might hurt me and that I hope aren't committed against me. But that doesn't stop me from using my real name in real life.
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    Has this happened to you? :wtf:

    If this has happened, cases like this should be handed to the police. They would know how to track down where the phone number came from and who made the call.

    As for reputation, I doubt employers would take anyone says on an anonymous BBS seriously.

    I think you are a little bit self-conscience and/or fearful about pedo accusations, IMO.
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  6. 14thDoctor

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    I did not sign up here to have my personal information abused by the staff, nor did I sign up here to to open myself up to all sorts of real-world harassment.


    If that's the sort of thing that's going to be allowed here, then this isn't a place I'm going to be. I don't think I'm alone in that.
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    For the tiny, miniscule percentage of times where something like this turns out to be the case, the baton should be passed to law-enforcement.

    For the majority of cases, the ones that really motivate internet anonymity 99.999% of the time, people can just cowboy the fuck up and accept that you shouldn't say things that would get your ass kicked unless you're ready to have your ass kicked.
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    Quite acting like a child, and people will quit treating you in a childish manner.

    The problem is, you want to troll people with their real life info, yet when the tables are turned and it happens to you, you cry foul over real-world harassment, even though it hasn't even happened to you yet.

    At what point do you start to ask yourself "Why me?" Why doesn't this happen to Asyncritus, or Clyde, or Bulldog, or Nautica, or Order2Chaos?

    But of course, like any other self crucifying child with a victim complex, it's everyone else's fault and the world is out to get them.
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    It certainly was not, despite the accusation being made at the time.

    I await with interest the outcome of this thread. Hopefully there shall be no double standards.
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    Why? Because some people feel they are owed an indulgent display of consistency? Because a privately-funded BBS is a democracy?

    WRONG.
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    See, you sound perfectly reasonable here:

    Then you go and say something like this:

    If a privately-funded BBS cannot refrain from being inconsistent because of personal feelings toward one poster over another, then the board owner and staff are then violating your first post and being assholes.
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  12. $corp

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    Maybe it's a sign that you should seek self-employment! :bergman:

    Seriously, if you don't want people trolling you with personal info, don't do it to others. Or just leave this place in protest and see how many people follow you.

    I will be glad the day your name is added under Sokar's sig.
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    I said that I hope there are no double standards. That's not an unreasonable hope. It's also not a demand or an ultimatum, and I'm pretty sure that Lanzman wants the rules to be applied consistently.

    Climb down from your high horse please.
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    What the fuck?
    I did it once, and I was banned for it. It was a fair and just response. All I want is the same standard applied now, but apparently that's too much to ask.
    What the fuck?
    What the fuck?
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    In your opinion.

    But that's the thing about being a guest in someone else's home. Your opinion doesn't fucking matter. You can either accept your host's rulings, or hit the bricks.
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    Post the screen shot. Surly there can be no way you can't block your name.

    Unless of course you're lying and your name is not in the sig at all. :bergman:
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    If Lanzman wants his "guests" to stick around, being fair and consistant would be in his best interests.
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    But what if it's stuff that wasn't on the net in the first place? I trust someone enough to meet up, they put information about me anywhere on internet (even on their own private site), and suddenly it's justified for them to use it to troll with right here.

    One thing I can say for sure: If a rule such as yours is put in place, I leave WF completely, definitively and immediately. I want no part of that. None at all. There is way too much information about me on internet (90% of it put up without my permission, simply because I am well known). I have made every effort to prevent any of that being associated with the username "Asyncritus" and seem to have been fairly successful. But using your rule, it could all be used against me. I would never accept that.

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  20. Uncle Albert

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    You really need to put some quotes around "fair" and "consistent," because the true goal here is very obviously to get attention and have their BBS lawyering shitstorms indulged.

    And the people who threaten to leave over shit like this are never the ones you want to keep around, so fuck 'em. :shrug:
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    Who's goal?
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    It's a legit tactic. If you think the ruling is unfair, go and chill at TK for awhile. I'd like to see how many you take with you. A bunch of us did that based on a ruling that didn't make any sense. When cooler heads prevailed and the mods and admins were able to analyze the ruling and find it was a more consistent decision to let Hood back in, we all returned and everyone was happy.

    We did lose an alright poster (Linda R) because of said ruling, but that's the way the cookie crumbles. Tough decisions need to be made for a site like this.

    Why don't you support my proposed changes to the private info rule? You of all people would benefit, since you could then troll all your opponents with their personal info to your heart's content - something you've shown great interest in.
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  23. The Original Faceman

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    I assume of course that personal information actually was revealed in the sig and not simply an indication that Peter Octavion knows 14thDoctors personal information.

    Because I know lots of people's personal information. For instance, I know baba's real name. Just ask anyone. :bergman:
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    I know Baba's real name too. I just don't feel a need to "threaten" him with it every other post.
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  25. K.

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    What do you lose at that point? In your scenario, you have already trusted the wrong person, and that person is already humiliating you by spreading your personal information somewhere else on the net, most likely adding that you're called Asyncritus here, which makes it likely that other people find you on WF, and WFers find your private information on the net. How does that become a bigger problem when the same information is also posted on Wordforge?
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    If someone did something soo slanderous and degrading against you, you would have legal recourse, just like in real life, to contact the authorities, track them down, and sue the living shit out of them.

    It's good that you have protected that information that no one could attribute the username "Asyncritus" to your real life persona.

    The simple solution is don't meet up with anyone you don't trust completely. :shrug:

    And if you must, use a handle. Storm does this - he even put up his name with his writing credentials. He's one of the most divisive personalities this site has ever seen, yet we don't hear about lefties breaking down the door to "get him" in real life.
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    Anyone who takes the time and effort to BITCH about how a message board is run.

    Yes, anyone.
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    You say that, but one of the major problems we've had with RL info on this board concerned him and gul, albeit initiated by Storm. Which is why I reject the idea that those who get caught up in this kind of issue somehow bring it upon themselves by their manners on WF. If at all, they attract nonsense because someone disagrees with their opinions.
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  29. The Original Faceman

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    Obviously you know baba's real name. How else would I have found out?
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    "Disagrees with their opinions." :lol: A charitable way of saying someone acted like annoying, shrill douchebag at every opportunity just to piss someone else off.
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