Stop the torture of Bradley Manning

Not likely given that if he ever said something really subversive they would take away his internet access and eat his dog.

Considering how expensive it is to house someone in a SuperMax prison, if this guy is in there, it is for some really serious shit, whether we know all the details or not.

I was misremembering an article I read. SCOTUS hasn't made a ruling that prolonged solitary confinement should be banned, just that it was cruel and unusual punishment akin to "the rack, thumbscrews, the wheel..." So that's why we still see prolonged solitary in prisons and it's not stopped. We're one of the few Western countries where it's OK, though, apparently.

The case itself, Chambers v. Florida, was primarily about coerced confessions. The Court overturned the defendant's conviction because his confession was compelled and made under duress, and they thus determined it was inadmissible in court.

From Wikipedia: "It marked one of the first times that the court had accepted the contention that treatment short of physical violence should result in the suppression of evidence."
Decision from Chambers v. Florida

At some point (due in no small part to prisoners having nothing better to do), we've allowed prisoners the ability to dictate how they are going to live.

We seem to forget that people in prison, especially nowadays, are not nice people.

I hope the treasonous little bastard gets raped of the ass. Repeatedly and frequently.

Rick should send the guy a teddy bear.

I read it again and it's actually kind of hilarious.

That's a good thing for him. Apparently he gets visitors, so it ain't exactly the silent treatment.

You've got to be kidding me. He can't sleep during the day? So. What.


Then you get this quote:

Followed by this quote:

Get the fuck outta here. Poor Bradley only gets one book to read at a time. Someone call Amnesty International (someone did, too).

And check out this gem (emphasis on the bold):

No shit? So are we complaining about this or complimenting the government for their obvious concern over his welfare?

Let's sum up: Little Bradley has access to entertainment, visitors, and exercise equipment. He is kept safe from other prisoners who would unquestionably do him harm. And this is torture.

This is 90% manufactured outrage and Rick gobbled it up like a stripper on a cocaine coated cock.

I hope a bunch of idiots take to the streets over this and fight for Bradley's right to have more than one book at time or take naps during the day. If they are successful, they may get him out of solitary and in the general population where everyone will be really nice to him all the time.

Being in solitary is tough. But, that's one of the things that happens when you get caught doing something wrong. The two border patrol agents who were convicted a few years for shooting an illegal alien in the ass (literally), they were kept in solitary as well because their lives were in jeopardy being in the general population, some of those being people they had caught and were sentenced to time in the joint.

He needs to quit the bitching and enjoy the fact he isn't taking it in the ass...

...oh wait, that may be what he's angling for.

In jail we can not force an inmate to take their meds. It's one of the annoying aspects of the job dealing with psychs. (unless we have a order from a judge but that is super rare)

However under certain circumstances the doctor can order a shot and we can and do use force if necessary to hold an inmate down to get that shot. It's only done for those who come up to the floor and are completely out of control.

Now in prison? You don't take meds they will explain to what happens when you don't take them and when you refuse again they make you take them.

As an espionage suspect, his ability to communicate with the outside world is both restricted and closely monitored.

Another strawman. I have not said, implied or even hinted that "everyone else is good". Issues concerning the US obviously arise more often because of the demographics of the board.

Feel free to make us aware of anyone that has been killed because of these leaks. And feel free to make an argument for concealing from the public the many crimes they revealed.

If you're going to wilfully distort what the article actually says, as you are, and ignore it when the distortion is pointed out to you, then I suggest that you can't be taken seriously on this issue either.

The really cynical side of me thinks they actually do want Manning released to the general population. A dead martyr (even one killed by other prisoners) gives them a lot more mileage than a pitiful traitor being treated mercifully by a fair and open justice system.

Get arrested and potentially tried and sentenced for treason?

^ Or do you only mean 1000 people betray the U.S? Cuz we all know that's what you were thinking...

Yes, yes. Little people all over the world need to betray their oaths and their countries in the name of my principles...

Let's face it, though. If this was a Russian or an Iranian, you'd be calling for his head on a pike. Heaven knows, you aren't as aggressive in going after those who betray those countries.

I'll be the first to admit it if I have to be. He broke our laws and potentially hurt us. That does make it wrong and of course I'm going to be upset about it.

All of a sudden you want absolute truth and absolute good and evil? Now that there's funny. I don't care who you are!

edit - Oh, and it does sound like you only wanted those 1,000 to be anti-American.

Really? Please inform yourself better.

Wikileaks has been leaking data from all sorts of different sources, including other governments from all over the world, among them Iran and Russia. It's all very admirable.

Information published by Wikileaks.

I think that's true.

I also think it's sad as hell that you don't understand the difference between the American government and the Iranian and Russian governments. Fuck, even the Chinese.

Our dirty laundry gets more air - we've got a free press. The US government does go the secrecy route to much IMO, and I'd like to see that change. Most often that's because we do have a free press, and it isn't that the government is doing something wicked as it is the people in question are covering their own asses.

Wikileaks IS going to get someone killed. It's only a matter of time. Maybe that's worth it, maybe it isn't, but there are definitely some things that should remain secret because it threatens people's lives with direct violence.

For those that missed it the first time:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...ade-the-world-more-repressive/article1818157/