Stop the torture of Bradley Manning

Quote what?

There's still much abuse going on, as highlighted by the support network.

http://www.bradleymanning.org/

Re: Start the torture of Bradley Manning

The guy is getting what he deserves.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/12/bradley-manning-cruel-inhuman-treatment-un

The U.N. is upset? Don't they have kids to rape, or ethnic cleansing to ignore somewhere?

Fuck the UN up it's collective ass.

Well of course he did. I wouldn't have expected otherwise.

Good glad to hear it..still better treatment then the little traitor deserves.

They should just try him and then execute his ass.

If the UN was in charge there wouldn't be solitary confinement for anyone, ever, under any circumstance.

Every inmate would live in open farm like dormitories and be pampered. I trust their conclusions about incarceration not at all.

I say take him out of solitary confinement, put him in among the general population, and let the Dahmer Effect run its course.

We see here what happens when a rogue state is criticised by international bodies. Nothing except an avalanche of abuse.

That's why they're a rogue state, and how they're torturing people who expose their crimes in the first place.

I see what happens - you wear your fingers to the bone playing your sad violin tunes.
BTW these "international bodies" are mostly hypocritical pussy irrelevant minor players anyway.

Given the immense military power at our fingertips, if the U.S. were truly a "rogue state," on the same moral level as the countries that usually get that label, the world would be a very different -- and much less pleasant -- place.

Those countries that get labeled as rogue states are acting as sovereign entities without regard (or in direct defiance) to international organizations or other countries. The US is more or less the same, except we have very few countries that are able or willing to check our power.

And yet, despite the lack of checks on our power, we haven't reduced Tehran or Pyongyang to a smoking crater.

Doesn't that suggest that we are, in fact, different from the countries that would likely do so to their enemies in a heartbeat if they had the chance?

In a nuclear age it is against every country's rational self-interest to reduce the capital of any other country to a smoking crater. Regardless of whether or not one agrees with the actions of the leaders of Iran or North Korea, they are still rational actors looking out for their own self-interests. That doesn't mean a country couldn't get away with other heinous acts, though usually on a mostly domestic level such as abuse of citizens, with a few instances of state-funded terrorism and/or war abroad. Hell, we didn't even have a legitimate reason to go to war with Iraq, but Iran most certainly did.

You think we need nukes to level a country? It's not 1945.

I can envision the world without the U.S. - as if we suddenly ceased to exist. The sane world would realize that maybe we weren't so bad after all. It's a tough world, and somebody has to wear the "daddy pants" in our big happy family. Might as well be us versus China (for example).

The frequent and continuing atrocities in several committed by your military say otherwise.

Frequent? How do you judge what "frequent" means?

And are you talking about "sanctioned and ordered" atrocities or thinks like the guy that just went mental and killed 16 people and will definitely be disciplined for?

I'm talking about the things that Bradley Manning himself revealed.

You're missing the point, of course we could flatten a country without nukes but to do so would be suicide. MAD is still very much preventing us and anyone else from going balls-out crazy on the world. The motivation for self-preservation among the leaders of supposedly rogue states is just as strong.

Mothers Against Drunk Driving?

One too many Ds, oops.