All Black comic book characters should be replaced with white actors for film adaptations

It's not a discussion when you constantly shut the discussion down. You don't want to have a discussion. So all that's left is to make fun of you.

Yeah, 3 whole posts worth of being preoccupied.

Bragging about dick size on the internet? OMG I BET IT'S ENORMOUS!!!!!! I am literally cowering in a corner contemplating how huge it is.

I'm only vaguely familiar with it, which is why I asked, so thanks for pointing that out.

This is false in two ways. First, movies do more than storytelling, and representation is a real issue. Second, of course increasing diversity can be a part of storytelling, and your claim that Sisko's race is immaterial flying in the face of the Fra Beyond the Stars storyline showcases that quite well.

Short memory, stalker boy.

Only to racists.

Only if you want your story to suck.

Which was criticized for that basis, along with the out of no where comment he made in refusing to help out Vic get his casino back on the holosuite. His race has no real bearing on his character as it is only incidental to it.

Have we ever interacted before today? Was there a time we spoke before I was intimidated by your huge penis?

That's like saying you can only support chemotherapy if you're pro-cancer. Yes, in a world without cancer, we wouldn't need it, but that's not this world.

If you think Far Beyond the Stars sucked, I'm not sure I can help you. But how you can reminisce about it and the Vic bit and then turn around and claim that these things weren't part of the Sisko portrayal is downright mysterious.

Probably, but he's never much liked me from the first day I posted here.

I'd ask why, but I'd have to care about his opinion first.

Also, this thread is comedy gold, and for once Dayton wasn't at the center of it.Well done, Wordforge!

No, it isn't. It's like me saying that race only matters to racists, which it is.

I didn't say that. I said that your story will suck if it spends all its time focusing on social justice bullshit.

Are you not reading what I'm actually saying and just making up whatever you like? Well, that would make you the average modern day moral crusader, wouldn't it? I pointed out that these instances of his race being brought up as having importance were criticized within the fandom, because prior to that it literally had no bearing on his character and logically shouldn't given the setting of the show. That's why the second instance, where it literally was Sisko bringing it up completely out of no where, really makes no sense in the story.

Actually as I recall your opening thread was by a young lady throwing the word "cock" around in her thread title. Which was a bit new for me, I'll admit, most female folk tended to throw around cunt over cock for shock value. But, as I also recall, I always tended to like your content and compliment you, at least back in the very early days.

I mean, before you revealed what a moron you could sound like so consistently.

He's a douche. That's answer enough.

Again, that's bullshit. Representation matters to people to whom racism, not race, matters.

Did you like it?

It was an explicit part of the show at least back to the first episode of season three; arguably, it was there in Emissary, but I guess you could present a diminished interpretation of that episode that doesn't include it.

They do? Honestly, I've rarely seen women use cunt outside of this board, and usually Tamar was the biggest offender.

But my first thread was in the Gray Room, because Stewey had been banned from TBBS a few weeks ahead of the Enterprise finale and I wanted to read one of his last reviews for that show.

I really don't remember that, but I have owned up that I wasn't the most thoughtful poster when I started here. Not that it's an excuse, but I was also fairly young and having grown up with a mom who believes her view of the world is the only right view and anyone that disagrees deserves blasting tends to rub off on a kid. This place did a lot to help me break that habit and the Navy did the rest.

Wrong. Race only matters to racists.

Not especially, and for the same reason I didn't care for the Janeway gothic horror holonovels - I'm watching a space opera and that's what I want out of it.

If you think his race was an "explicit part of the show" then you're imagining things. Of course given how you've blatantly made up things about what I've posted just in this thread, I'm not terribly surprised by that.

Christ, you're stupid.

Actually, the whole argument over "is so-and-so racist", or "is such-and-such a racist argument", doesn't interest me.

Because, whether it/they are racist or not, what it REALLY boils down to, whether it's race swapping, gender swapping, whatever, is "I want the world to stay the saaaaame!!! ".

That's what it is.
If it were really "faithfulness to the source material", we've poured out bucketloads of examples now where the people making those arguments aren't consistent with that espoused standard.

It's "this is different, and I don't like it".
"The world is different, and I don't like it".
Plain old old-fogey-ism.

You don't get angry at old-fogey-ism, you pity it.

I am a bit of an Old Fogey. Get off my lawn, ya damn hippies!

Most race/gender swapping of characters doesn't bug me. In fact, I like VaginaStarbuck and MelaninPerryWhite.

But I have to say this instance, I'm bothered simply because Mary Jane will always look like this to me:



That's one of the most iconic comic panels of all time. Mary Jane's appearance is tied to her character, at least for me.

But far be it for me to hold up progress. I guess we'll see how if works out.

Yeah, but when hiring a human actress to play a character, you pretty much have to accept that she's gonna have a nose.

Basically. I'll grant Paladin at least has the balls to admit it, so I gotta respect that.

It's the same shit over every new Trek after TOS. " THIS IS GONNA RAPE MUH CHILDHOOD, HURR " The same bs happened over TNG, FFS. TN fracking G!

You still have plenty of redhead MJ spank fodder, boys.

Ironically, Kirsten Dunst was an example of casting a white redhead who was still wrong for the role. She was a dead fish in those movies.

I still fail to see how just because other movies cast differently means it validates it. We had a black Perry White who was another dead fish and both MoS and BvS sucked so there you go.


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Shower thought: Anyone notice how some people are assuming Zendaya got the role simply because she's black? Like there's no way she could have been the best actress that tried out for the role, or the biggest young female star they could afford for the role?

Tasha Yar was supposed to be a ripoff of Vasquez from Aliens, but when it came to casting they chose Denise Crosby. Was that an attempt to pander to whites? Yaphet Kotto was considered for Picard. Was Patrick Stewart hired instead because of racism?

^Um, Yar and Picard were new characters, maroon?

And why make Bond black, haven't they already morphed Token Moneypenny to placate the diversity police and pander to the appropriate markets?

Ah, the modern lefties. What a larf.

That doesn't make the casting decisions any less racist.

QFT.

Ah, you guys are right.

Just keep the black ink handy until you've darkened around 12 per cent of the American super-heroes and their peripherals.

[Personally, I'd have gone for an off white pigment for all of them, with little brown spots covering 12 % of their skin area, but that's just another reason why I'd have not been successful in a career of commercial-minded liberal standard-setter suit employed in big media.]

Does Archie have any colored friends yet?

There is a lot of that going around. A lot of "I can't explain it, I can't justify it in any logical or fact based way, but I justknow it true so I will start calling people dirty names because they disagreed with me when I said something foolish."