Arkansas Set To Execute 8 Inmates over 10 Day Period in April

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  1. Tuckerfan

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    Duh. Show me where I said that.
  2. Dayton Kitchens

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    You said "by your logic" which I assumed referred to my comments about the Netherlands population of likely criminals declining.
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    Sigh. I should have known that you were incapable of making the necessary steps, given your PRAXIS scores. I'll break it down for you:
    1.) The Netherlands are being forced to close down prisons because of a lack of people to incarcerate.
    2.) You make the claim that the Netherlands is losing population at a dramatic rate.
    3.) I point out that the only reason the US is showing a population growth is due to immigration. Thus, logically, it must follow, that the only reason the US has the largest prison population in the world, if you are to be believed that the reason the Netherlands is closing prisons has to do with their falling population numbers, is due to immigration.
    4.) If immigrants do not make up a significant portion of the US prison population, there must be some other reason why this is happening. Why do you think that this is?
    Understand?
  4. Dayton Kitchens

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    No.
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  5. Tuckerfan

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    So you're saying that this guy Dayton mentioned:
    "One was sentenced to life in prison for another murder, escaped days later and killed someone else. Then led police on a high speed chase that resulted in the death of yet another person" was wrongly accused even when he escaped and killed more people?
    Just askin' here. I am fully on board with "ten guilty men go free rather than one innocent man get sentenced" but when you escape and kill again you pretty much lose all credibility. Agree?
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  7. Tuckerfan

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    Nope. Didn't talk about him at all until Dayton made him a specific talking point.
    In this instance, yes. Doesn't mean that I'm in favor of the death penalty, it also doesn't mean I'm going to be terribly upset if he becomes room temperature.
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    You can't even come up with anything more insulting than Tuttle's sad, tired troll that I haven't bothered responding to since I was left the military. :lol:

    Sad!
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    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    The fuck does that have to do with anything, dicknuts?

    God, you're stupid.
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  10. Dayton Kitchens

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    Less potential criminals Anna.

    Basic math.

    Try it sometime.
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  11. garamet

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    When the amount is measurable, the word you want is “fewer.” Are you suggesting a certain percentage of the population is born criminal? :garamet:
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  12. The Original Faceman

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    He is. And judging by where the executions are coming due it seems Arkansans are particularly likely to be born criminals.
  13. Dayton Kitchens

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    Not born criminals but more likely to become criminals. Everyone has a choice.

    This isn't difficult to understand.
  14. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Why?
  15. Dayton Kitchens

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    Everyone has genetic predispositions to something. Doesn't mean they don't have free will. Just tendencies in one direction or the other.
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  16. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Either you’ve just reversed yourself, or you don’t understand what “genetic predisposition” means. Which gene sequence(s) have been identified as causative for criminal behavior?
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  17. Dayton Kitchens

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    How would I know. I'm not a scientist.
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Yet you’re confident of your belief that violent behavior is a result of genetics. If you truly believed that, why would you want to execute people who have “bad genes”? Would you stop at those with “criminal genes” or execute anyone you perceived to have “bad genes”?



    You conveniently left out the second factor and equally important factor – environment. Serial killers are far more likely than the general population to have suffered severe head injury in childhood, for example. And then there's this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-had-neurological-disorders-including-autism/
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  20. Dayton Kitchens

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    Once again, I never said that and you know it
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Ahem:

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  22. Dayton Kitchens

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    I never said genetic dispositions ever FORCE people to do something. I did say everyone had a choice.

    But I suppose you missed that.

    Oh well, if you can't read I'm not doing it for you.
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  23. garamet

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    You cherry-picked the article you posted to jibe with your preconception that some people are born evil. You’re back to Square One. And you’ve yet to get your wish to see these prisoners executed: http://www.newser.com/story/241463/supreme-court-blocks-arkansas-execution.html
  24. Dayton Kitchens

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    Once again, I NEVER said that and you know it.

    Come on Garamet, you're too smart to have to lie to support your argument. And too smart not to know full well what I meant.
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    You never deliberately ignored the "environmental" aspect of violent behavior as explored in the article you posted, starting with the title? :wtf:
  26. Dayton Kitchens

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    I fully acknowledge that environmental factors are a key factor in human development. I don't believe in genetic determinism nor have I indicated I did. I fully believe people have a choice in their destinies. Genetics plays a role. Environment plays a role. Personal choice and free will plays a role.

    You made that stupid comment about what gene strands cause violent behavior so I simply googled something that addressed genetic factors.

    For someone constantly wanting her questions answered you have annoying reluctance to accept the answers given.
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    Does the make Dayton responsible when his concussed football players become serial killers?
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    So while admitting you’re not a scientist, you’ve come full circle to “criminal genes” again.
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    Dayton's got pinkertons guys who committed massacres as his ancestors.
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