The US Space Force

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  1. oldfella1962

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    Failure to launch :( The Space Force tipped over on the pad like a North Korean ICBM. :(
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    That’s enough money to eliminate world hunger for 25 years.
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    Muh space missiles! :sob:
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    Yay, now we can let people die down here, and launch them to their deaths in trumpomatic space ships. Will they have sharks with lasers?

    Has anyone checked to see if there is a huge cave in antartica where the lizard people live?

    Space force, because you know we are fucking the planet.
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    They are going to borrow money from china. It is like pennies from heaven to them.
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    Interestingly, the Space Force will not be quite as separate as we thought. It's going to be a child of the Air Force, much like the Marines are children of the Navy ("Marine" stands for "My Ass Rides In Navy Equipment").

    I'll point out again that while it's all well and good to decry the money the US spends on the military, before we can seriously address the matter we have to have a roles-and-missions debate. What do we want our armed forces to be able to do?

    Oh, and before the Usual Suspects jump to assumptions, my personal opinion is that a "Space Force" is a pretty silly idea. That mission should just be part of the Air Force.
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    My opinion is that having an "Air Force" and a "Marine Corps" is also silly. Those missions should just be part of the Army and of the Navy, as needed.
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    Wasn't there some international treaty back in the 60s where everyone agreed not to militarize space? As much fun as Star Wars is to watch, I'd much rather spend money on science and exploration.
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    Tell that to China and Russia. Space is going to be militarized no matter what.
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    Better yet, just abolish all branches of the military.
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    The Outer Space Treaty of 1967 prohibits States Parties from placing weapons of mass destruction in orbit, or installing WMDs on the Moon and other celestial bodies. The OST does not prohibit military activities in orbit, outer space, or on celestial bodies. The OST prohibits any state from owning any portion of a celestial body, while making celestial bodies the common ownership of all humanity. The OST has been widely adopted (including the US, Russia, and China) and has been widely followed. The OST has also been largely recognized as customary international law given its widespread adoption.

    The Moon Treaty of 1979 prohibits military bases and activities only on the Moon and other celestial bodies, but not in space. The Moon Treaty has only been adopted by a handful of mostly non spacefaring states. The US, Russia, and China are not parties. Owing to not having very many States Parties, the Moon Treaty is not considered customary international law.

    TL;DR: you can't put WMDs in space, on moons, or on planets, but nothing is legally stopping a state from militarizing space.
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    are you in that big a hurry to learn to speak Chinese or Russian?
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    Are you assuming I haven't?
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    Yes I know all this.

    It's also meaningless.

    Once humans can reliably get off Earth and out into space all those treaties will be worthless. Those treaties only exist now to try and keep the superpowers on an equal footing.
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    Eh, fiddly bits quibble here. The main thrust of the Outer Space Treaty was to ensure that we didn't have a repeat of what happened in the 1600s where the Pope awarded various European nations the rights to exploit the Americas despite the fact that those nations hadn't sent ships to the Americas.
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    It's served its purpose so far. Definitely not the end all and be all of space law, and new treaties need to be made, but really the framework is there because before this the only international customary law about space related to Sputnik a decade prior.
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    so which would be a bigger waste of taxpayer money?
    1) designing and producing a brand new style of uniform at a hundred dollars per uniform?
    2) designing and producing brand new tags & patches for currently existing uniforms at five dollars per uniform?
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