"You are making me uncomfortable"

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  1. Asyncritus

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    Amid all the thoroughly justified outrage at Tucker Carlson's completely demented anti-mask rant (if you haven't seen it, there are clips of it available in a number of places, including on Snopes), it seems to me that there hasn't been enough attention paid to one particular aspect of it. At one point he said that if you see a person wearing a mask in public, you should politely but firmly ask them to remove it "because you are making me uncomfortable".

    This, to me, is in some ways worse than the rest of the abysmal nonsense he managed to pack into 5 minutes: the "right to be protected from things that make me uncomfortable".

    You see a lesbian couple kissing? They should stop, because they are making you uncomfortable. You see a black man and a white woman walking arm in arm? They should separate, because they are making you uncomfortable. You see a church with a cross on the steeple and a sign that says "Jesus loves you"? They should remove those things, because they are makng you uncomfortable.

    Is there anyone here, left, right, or sagging in the middle, who can defend this? It seems to me it is neither more nor less than "the right to impose your own ideas on everyone else". It also seems to me that it is the direct descendant of the "Moral Majority" (which was far from being a majority...) which led to the current state of affairs in the Republican party.

    You have to get pretty far left (I'm thinking Soviet-style left) before you find that kind of tell-others-what-they-have-to-do mentality on the left. Yet on the right end of the political spectrum, Carlson says it as if it was the most normal reason in the world for expecting other people to change their behaviour to suit you.
     
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  2. Ancalagon

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    I *think* he was trying to make fun of the ‘safe space’ straw man the right has built.
     
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  3. Steal Your Face

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    I think it's a push back against the Karens that scream at people for not wearing a mask. What's really abhorrent is him telling people that parents who have kids with masks is akin to child abuse.
     
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    Point of order:

    Yelling at someone because they're not wearing a mask does not make you a Karen.

    Get your shit together, kid.
     
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  5. Steal Your Face

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    Not keeping six feet away and screaming in their face with particulates flying out of your mouth is kind of defeating the purpose and we've seen some people who are screaming end up pulling their mask down anyway so they can get further in their faces.
     
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    Show us examples of this or GTFO.
     
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    Yeah, I've seen video of ANTI-masker Karens screaming and spewing spit, but not pro-maskers.
     
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    This thread made me uncomfortable, but I'm not sure what it's about.
     
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  9. Asyncritus

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    You are making me uncomfortable with posts like that. You should not post them any more.

    Mods! Do something about Steve, STAT! :shakefist:
     
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    Maybe it makes you uncomfortable because you're not sure what it's about.
     
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    Not for nothing, I intend to wear a mask in public in certain situations for the foreseeable future and I wish a motherfucker would come up to me and harass me about it.

    Every year, 24,000 to 64,000 people die from the flu. Last season, there was 1 pediatric death. Not a typo. 1 kid died from the flu in the 2020-2021 flu season. There were no influenza related admissions at my hospital last year. Could be reporting errors, but undoubtedly, masks and social distancing made a difference.
     
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    I heartily endorse your "everyone stay the fuck away from me" position.
     
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    I don't need random fuckheads yelling at me in public for any reason. I will NEVER react well to that. Nobody has some special privilege to berate me.
     
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    Santa in the background making a list and checking it twice in that one.
     
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    I speak nice and calm and quiet like Hannibal Lecter.
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    Do you do the "thpthpthpthpthp" sound? Cuz that's what makes it really intimidating.
     
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    Unless they have a blue uniform and a badge. In that case you would meekly and immediately do whatever they were yelling at you to do.
     
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    I'm not entirely uncomfortable with rounding these kinds of people up and putting them in camps at this stage.

    Being anti-mask is a lot like being anti- driving on the correct side of the road.
     
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    So I watched all the videos you posted here.

    Not one of them has a moment like you described in which "people who are screaming end up pulling their mask down anyway so they can get further in their faces."

    There are lots of people who are screaming and obnoxious. Fair enough. The part that seemed obvious BS to me is that anyone concerned about the coronavirus would put themselves at risk just to argue more loudly.

    If you do actually find a video that shows a pro-mask person taking off a mask to yell at a no-mask person, do me a favor and pinpoint the actual time in the vid where this event happens.

    Until then, GTFO.
     
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    Not sure what the point is of the kid posting all those videos.

    Also not sure why @Ancalagon and @shootER repped them.

    After a year of this pandemic and millions of deaths, I have zero -- absolute fucking ZERO -- use for anti-maskers.

    More of these selfish cocksuckers need to be called out in public.
     
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    I share the sentiment, but shouldn't someone from Ireland be, you know, cautious about suggesting that people be put in camps for driving on the wrong side of the road? :chris:
     
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    He is a walking example of why some people need a punch right in the fucking face.
     
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    I could see him having posted the videos because he thought they showed people pulling down their masks to yell at unmasked people.

    I could see him having posted the videos because he thought people wouldn't spend 10+ minutes watching them to check out that he was wrong. (Often when he posts links to videos I have told him ain't nobody got time for that.)

    I have no idea why Ancalagon or shootER would have given him pos-reps at all, let alone Thank You for those videos. Maybe they didn't watch them or maybe they wanted to pat him on the head for at least trying.
     
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    That.

    I was planning on watching them later when I had more time.
     
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    Tucker's an asshole, plain and simple, and y'all know from my posts that I think anti-maskers are just plain crazy.

    But y'all denying the left didn't invent the "this makes me uncomfortable" thing is just... well, denial. It goes to such things as colleges canceling lectures by, and students protesting visits by, conservative speakers because, yeah they said it: it makes them uncomfortable.
     
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    Hey, don't make fun of which side of the road people drive on in Ireland. In any case, they're thinking about changing that. They want to do a test where, for one month, they have all the cars drive on the right side of the road, instead of the left.

    And if that works out, the next month they'll try it with the trucks and busses, too...
     
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    I posted them because it shows people with masks confronting people without masks and getting up in their face.
     
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    But the videos didn't show what you said they were doing -- taking off their masks in order to do so.

    So did you think that the videos DID show that? Or did you know that they had nothing to do with your apparently false claim?
     
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