The implosion of the Democratic Party thread

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  1. 14thDoctor

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    That's been the basic conservative M.O. for ages now. In Canada the Reform Party/Canadian Alliance/Conservative Party spent years telling Westerners that Westerners were deeply upset about various issues and demanding certain reforms, then mostly failing to act on any of those demands while controlling the federal government for almost a decade. Then once they were out of power, they went right back to it while claiming that their opponents refusal to address those demands was undermining national unity and encouraging support for Western separatism.

    Alberta just had a non-binding referendum about whether or not to scrap the current federal equalization system that diverts no strings attached money to the have-not provinces, because Conservative Premier Jason Kenney tells everyone Albertans hate the current unfair equalization formula that screws over Alberta. But which government wrote the current formula? Stephen Harpers Conservative government of course, of which Jason Kenney was a minister. (Harper and Kenney were both representing Alberta ridings at the time.)

    In conclusion, all conservatives seem to have to offer voters is bad faith arguments and outright lies told to manufacture outrage they have no intention of quelling so long as it benefits them. :shrug:
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  2. 14thDoctor

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    Democrats providing average taxpayers better value for their tax dollars in the form of improved services: buying votes
    Republicans delivering massive tax cuts to their wealthiest donors: not buying votes?
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  3. matthunter

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    Nova's plan would essentially result in single-party rule. The effect of this a bit down the road would be the fracturing of the Democratic Party, probably into a centrist party and a far-left Bernie Sanders Give Me Free Shit party. The Republicans would become a permanent minority party and would likely throw elections to the centrist democrats. Since people in cities tend to be left-leaning, the basic problem would remain - the far-left Bernie Sanders Give Me Free Shit party would be the urban party and the centrists and rump Republicans would be the "rest of the country" party and we'd be having this same argument about lack of representation.
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  5. 14thDoctor

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    If the Republicans can't field candidates or write platforms capable of appealing to voters in urban centres, how is that a problem to solved to be undermining the basic principle of "one person, one vote?" I thought you were against participation trophies? :chris:

    EDIT: What happened to guaranteeing equal opportunities instead of guaranteeing equal outcomes? :chris:
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  6. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    THAT'S what he's fucking talking about?!?!?! :wtf:
    Government functioning is fucking bribery to these people??? :wtf:
    Jesus tapdancing Christ, the right is fucking insane.
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  7. tafkats

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    It doesn't have to be enforceable. All it has to do is create fear and make teachers think they'll risk going bankrupt if Karen and her sons Aiden, Braden, Hayden, Jaden and Kyle (hashtag boymom) declare that the truth hurts their delicate fee-fees.
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    Or the didn't appreciate being shamed for not being visibly "allies" of "anti-racism," "equity" and other loaded buzzwords of cultural marxist social conditioning.
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  9. 14thDoctor

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    Make sure to wash your hands for at least 60 seconds if you're going to keep pulling things out of your ass like that. :bergman:
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  10. 14thDoctor

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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory
    Never go full Nazi. :nono:
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  11. Steal Your Face

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    How is vote for me and I’ll give you free shit not buying votes?
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    Lanzman: IT'S NOT FREE YOU STUPID FUCKING LIBTARD YOU'RE PAYING FOR EVERYTHING WITH YOUR TAX DOLLARS FUCKING HELL IT'S NEVER FREE :ted:
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  13. Diacanu

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    Not any more than "come to Burger King, we're better than Mickey D's".
    Or "come to Wendy's, we're better than both of them".
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  14. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    That’s what they want is single party rule. Control over you from cradle to the grave and sometimes in your afterlife.
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    Conservatives still win elections in Europe, friend.

    Hell, the conservatives managed to pull the UK out of the EU by the slimmest of margins, and they didn't need to hang on to an entirely antiquated system to do so.

    We already have single-party rule in all but name only and it'll just be codified in 2022 if the GQP wins.
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    I watched Episode 8 on an IMAX screen that didn't project as hard as conservatives do :lol:
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  17. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Or bullied into saying slavery is your fault and white people are the devil and America is a racist country despite electing a black man for President twice.
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  18. Bailey

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    The result would not be single party rule. :lol:

    Source: The entire world history of democracy.

    What would occur is likely as you say, the Democrats would shift a bit to the left and lose some votes, the Republicans would shift a bit more towards the center and pick some up.

    In two party systems (which most crude FPTP systems tend to turn into) the parties and voters continually self correct towards that.

    What does entrench single party rule is when that push and pull is artificially constrained. When a party can wield power by appealing to a minority they have no reason to try and appeal to the majority. So instead of a tug of war to the median positions, you have a weight continually pulling towards the minority side.

    Keep that up too long and eventually the ropes gonna snap.
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  19. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    I can't be racist, I have a black friend president.
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    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    It only took you two fucking letters to go from criticizing loaded buzzwords to spouting that loaded nonsense. :lol:
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    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Lanzman since you're clearly committed to the idea I would still love to know your thoughts on this.
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    The law we've actually examined is fully enforceable, it just wouldn't actually do what its proponents or opponents claimed. You can generate a culture of fear without any law at all.
  23. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    You got ripped off.
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  24. Ten Lubak

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    You sound like a real sensitive sally

    I'm white and I don't feel I'm getting bullied into saying slavery is my fault

    Why are you feeling that way, I wonder
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    Absolutely this.
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  26. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    I didn’t say that I feel that way.
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    Then why are you complaining about it?
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  28. Steal Your Face

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    Because that’s the goal of CRT, to make white people hate America and turn them into communists.
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    I'm down with that.
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    Do you even listen to yourself?
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