The All Time Greatest Random Mass Shooting Thread

The cheap ones are pieces of shit that aren't going to be a problem for someone who already proved willing to use burglary tools. Then the accusation shifts to "You didn't spend enough to prevent someone else from choosing to do bad things! " The real end game being a complete ban on private ownership.

False. My obligation towards my safety is satisfied, and my only obligation to the safety of others is to refrain from actively threatening it, which would only be the case if I were the one wielding the weapon.[

Imaginary reasons are not compelling. I have neither harmed nor endangered anyone, and am not responsible for the conduct of those who do. And those anti gun nuts are the same types who think violent felons deserve second chances. They have zero credibility with me.

The gangbangers in this case were never up on weapons charges

It's the same green TJ wrangler I have owned and wrenched on the entire time I've been posting here.

there you go blaming others for your laziness again.

why should we be at risk from your willful negligence?

But at least one committed a violent crime. Something about choking someone, if I recall correctly. Go ahead and explain to me how I should give up my property so some violent shitbag coward who thinks it's ok to choke a bitch can safely walk the streets.

Teenager mentality

That would make sense if my vehicle drove itself or my weapons fired themselves. Since that is not the case, the person placing you at risk is the person operating the device.

Get fucked. All you've got are tortured rationalizations for how I should have some obligation towards the actions of others. Build a safe into a concrete wall, or whatever happens is my fault. Get the fuck out of here.

so you have to pull the steering wheel off to actually get to the ignition wires, it looks like...



again, my scenario of irresponsibly leaving the keys in seems more likely.

You have an obligation to adequately secure your weapon. You fail.

and the person who is the accessory to what they do is...

Oh, good. Now I get to hear about how this thing I have been repairing for 20+ years is constructed.

No - all I've got is a living, breathing example of a country that I live in where it's law to keep your weapons in a safe and every gun owner I know is perfectly fine with it and happy that their firearms are secure

People like you get laughed out of the room

It is adequately secured. You just want to make that standard unattainably high to price most people out of the subject entirely.

jsut wondering how well it handles without a steering wheel?

christ, but you're sensitive

Nobody who's only "sin" is failing to live in Fort Knox to spare society the discomfort of removing shitty people.

If that were the goal, taxes would do it.

Hmmm.

Laugh all you want. I don't require your approval and your vapid anecdotes do not make your case.

Or their high gun crime

kinda missed that point, didn'cha?

Oh, no. I see your dumbass "point," and I am not an "accessory" for failing to take more and more and FUCKING MORE steps to prevent thieving shitbags from being thieving shitbags. At what point are they the ones responsible for their actions? Is there even such a point or is it always someone else's fault? Should have protected you from yourself. Should have physically prevented you from doing bad things. You are just a helpless slave to your shitty whims, and I'm the real bad guy for not going out of my way for making the world your personal, nerf-padded playpen.

The one choked his girlfriend and whipped her with his belt. Both were treated with light sentences.

a steel locker with three point lock and cylinder keying goes for about $200. It'll hold 8 rifles.

this baby's a bit bigger for $700 and has a digital lock and five points.




maybe another $500 to make a hole in your basement or garage floor and pour a bag worth of concrete over the bolt mounting. Ain't nobody gonna spend time grinding through that during a B&E.

got'cha... you're a childish narcissist who can't understand the complexities of adult responsibility.


the reason we need to have these sorts of laws in the first place.

At what point do you stop being responsible for your guns?

I'm sure the leasing company that owns my studio apartment would love that.

Now I get to hear how apartment-dwelling peasants should be excluded from the conversation.

$1,200 because other people can't raise their kids right. Fuck that.

When they are removed from my possession against my will.

We've already shot holes through UA's "but I'm a deadbeat!" defense

I understand it just fine. I just reject your rationalizing the coddling of criminals, which is the actual reason these sorts of laws are ever under discussion.

I require no defense, because I have done nothing wrong.