The Don't Say Gay bill

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  1. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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  2. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    If they're separated from their parents, or their parents cannot be positively identified, it would be irresponsible not to detain them or to release them to unknown adults.
    But it isn't the kid that's using it. That's the whole point.
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  3. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    FTFY.
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  4. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    That lady at Disney who's in charge of wokeness has one non-binary child and one trans child. Someone asked what the odds were.

    I replied: "With her as a mom? 100 percent."
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  5. Jenee

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    Do you not discuss issues with your friends? That must be a very boring life.
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    As college electives I would not be surprised. I just thought it odd that it’s a high school course. But, then, I went to school in the 70s and early 80s. Well after forced prayer in school was abolished.
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    So she has GLBT children but never pushes to have a GLBT lead or sub character in any movie?

    She does not sound all that pushy to me. Sounds more like she is afraid to ask disney to do what most other media companies have done so far. I think you snowflakes should appreciate how long disney has refused to put a GLBT character into their animated movies.
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    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    I don't invite my friends to have performative arguments on a message board when I am sucking their cock in person. At least I would figure it wasn't a performance if you asked him to pick up some milk or a pizza on his way over to get his nightly hummer.
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    The only reason a six month old would use he/she would be if that’s what they’re taught. As far as a six month old saying anything in a tweet is the satirical response to someone who first tweeted a nonsensical tweet about something their very young child said.
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    He does seem to be reverting back to his Chad persona.
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  11. Jenee

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    And what do you call people who teach child him/her? It’s the same fucking thing.
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  12. tafkats

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    Well, OK.

    Let's file lawsuits every time a teacher has students refer to her as "Mrs. Jones," or uses a personal pronoun to refer to a student.
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  13. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Wonder if @Uncle Albert and @Federal Farmer can still look at a bill like that and honestly have their brains say "nope, nothing sus here!"?
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  14. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    No, @Paladin said he saw someone on Twitter say these things. If you ever go on Twitter these parents make videos of themselves and their kids doing these things. No trolls involved, they show us who they are all by their lonesome.
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  15. Diacanu

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    FTFY.
  16. Fisherman's Worf

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    I do, but not in a public setting where my friends openly lie, gaslight, and bully me. And I can't even imagine having such discussions like you and UA in public with my wife. I would be embarrassed to say to my wife the things UA says to you here, either in private or in public.
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  17. Paladin

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    It is not.

    1. Even assuming that a non-traditional gender identity is an organic development (about which I am highly dubious), the vast majority of biologically male children will still be "he/him." You're far less likely to enforce the wrong identity by using the traditional one.

    2. The assignment of non-traditional gender identities is a new thing socially, and as such it may carry risks that are unforeseen. Like it or not, traditional gender identities are historically very well-established and seemingly fit with biological human nature.
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  18. Paladin

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    @Diacanu probably had the high school version of what I took. It isn't any kind of religious class, it's just reading the text to appreciate its literary value and to understand its historical context.

    As I recall, at the college I took it at, there was some old by-law that the college had to offer a course in studying the bible. I think it was a condition of some grant someone made once upon a time.
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    Interesting speculation, how many people who have experienced gender identity issues have you talked to incoming up with these ideas?
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    It’s so weird. You’re capable of stringing words together in a sentence, but completely incapable of reading. Weird.
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    So, because it might hurt some, we must hurt some.
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  22. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    None. The first is mathematically inarguable. The second is a statement that uncertainty exists in deviating from established social norms, which is true.

    From my experience, people--particularly very young people--who have uncertainty or confusion about their gender have a lot of difficulties.
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    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    If you decide your child is a "they/them" or a "ze/zir," are you much more likely to be wrong than right?

    And if you think enforcing the wrong gender identity on your child is a grievous harm, aren't you more likely to do so if you choose the statistically least likely possibility?
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    What if I called them Ola/Ela? Would that hurt them?
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    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    If they decide they're a he or her, they don't have far to go, do they?
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  26. Paladin

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    What do you mean?

    If you call a male "he" or a female "she," are you much more likely to be right or to be wrong?
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    They're in the middle.
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    If it's unimportant what you call them, call them by pronouns reflecting their biological sex.

    Either it's all-important or it doesn't mean anything. If the former, you really don't want to get it wrong and should go with biological sex since that will be correct the vast majority of the time. If it's the latter, then you do no harm by going with the biological sex and you avoid unforeseen complications.
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  29. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    What percentage are in the middle compared to being one side or the other?
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    In Tagalog, according to google, it’s the same word. I‘ll confirm with Filipino friends on facebook, but …. it doesn’t seem to hurt them or their children.

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