Can Kids Consent to Hormone Blockers?

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Can Kids Consent to Hormone Blockers?

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  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Teh Baba

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  1. Order2Chaos

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    I genuinely can't tell if you’re just making shit up now because it feels true and you haven’t read any of the science linked in this thread, or you’re moving the goalposts beyond demanding reversibility into demanding ineffectiveness.
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  2. Bailey

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    No lawyerballing, just a recognition of the difference between assumptions and facts.

    Puberty blockers are well understood, studies on them have been posted in this thread.

    This isn't lawyerballing, it seems we'd both agree that decisions should be based on facts and evidence right, not just hunches?

    You asserted things not being acknowledged, and thanks for sharing the two things you say are examples of that.

    Infertility
    There seems to be little evidence for long term infertility as a result of delayed onset of puberty after using blockers. There is a lot obviously relating to further hormone treatment, but that's outside the scope of puberty blockers alone.

    Growth
    This is one where there can be known issues, mainly relating to bone density. There are a lot of studies on this, with acknowledged potential side effects that mean many of those on blockers are also prescribed calcium supplements.
    Interestingly, the sooner that hormone treatments are started the less these effects seem to exist.

    In neither of those examples do I see things that are not acknowledged.
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  3. Bailey

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    You don't. That's 100% subjective. You wait until they're 18 and then let them get whatever medical procedures they can afford.
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    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Except that's being banned too, and by the "think of the children!" brigade.
    Y'know, the ones who pumped you full of the faux-outrage in the first place.
    So....
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  6. Nyx

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    Hell, some states are going after same sex relationships now, too.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...icans-proposing-gay-marriage-ban/11374694002/
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  7. Uncle Albert

    Uncle Albert Part beard. Part machine.

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    Not my problem that you can't make the distinction.
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  8. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Oh, so you're not just an island, but an island with a consequences forcefield around the coastline.
    Neat trick.
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    Does this apply to any medical procedures, or just the ones for conditions you don't believe really exist?
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    Hey there, you know you are not supposed to ask hard questions. This is why this place is considered a leftist bubble when you do things like actually expose the weakness that exists in the fascist argument.
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    Gender reassignment surgery is elective . . . It’s a type of “plastic” surgery. It’s not like cutting out a tumor or repairing a bad heart valve.
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    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    A dick is a growth that keeps getting inflamed, and you have to perpetually squeeze the white stuff out.
    Yet Dr. Pimple Popper isn't allowed to do gender reassignments.
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  13. Bailey

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    Discussion here seems to be about puberty blockers which isn't gender reassignment surgery.
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    Did anyone else clock the irony of "oh, transgender people are probably really just gay" being one of the new talking points, when for years and years "oh, they're just confused" was a talking point for denying that gay people were real?
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    My bad, you mentioned medical procedures and I read it as “surgical.”
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    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    TNG's "Frame Of Mind" was on, and when that fat asylum guard is taking a sneering douchebag verbal dump all over Riker, it was easy to imagine him as UA, especially with quotes like this...

    ...and then the question popped into my mind that I now put out to the rest of you.

    If your loved one had to be institutionalized, could you sleep well at night finding out UA worked there in any capacity?
    Can you really dig down deep inside yourself, and with a straight face say "yes" to that?
    Can you for an instant picture him being kind?
    I mean not performatively around authorities who could sign his pink slip, but totally unsupervised?
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    He's a male nurse Ratched.
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  19. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    So, @Uncle Albert , gays and lesbians changed from straight by "creeps" yes or no?
  20. Uncle Albert

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    :wtf:

    No to whatever clown world horse hockey strawman you're trying to float.
  21. Diacanu

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    So only transes, huh?
    How's that work?
    Show us your work with the test tubes and Bunsen burner.
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    Because sometimes they grow out of it, and sometimes parents are using them as woke fashion accessories. Coming out as gay doesn't point to life-altering medical intervention.
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  23. Diacanu

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  24. Diacanu

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    @Nova , @Amaris , @Tererun , are you growing out of your phase yet?
    Ready to be good little helmet-haired Republicans watering your lawn?
    :chris:

    Any of our other LGBT members, same question!

    :corn:
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  25. Jenee

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    Perhaps you've missed my posts where I've shared my own experiences with gender dysphoria.
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  26. Diacanu

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    So, "sometimes" is 1.
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    I can't wait to grow out of my phase so that people will stop threatening me with death because I represent the downfall of society.
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  28. Jenee

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    While I do love the idea of being unique, I'm absolutely, I'm not the only person who has experienced this.
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  29. Uncle Albert

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    "Threaten with death" no doubt being code for "failed to validate the way you'd like, on command. "
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  30. Nyx

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    No, it means I was threatened with death.
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