Can Kids Consent to Hormone Blockers?

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Can Kids Consent to Hormone Blockers?

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  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    I can play that game too.
    Wow, isn't this fuckin' productive, huh?
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  2. Tererune

    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    Lack of argument is obvious.

    UA needs to give it a rest and go stick his worthless cock in @Jenee . Bitch has one job and she needs to get to it.
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    Uncle Albert Part beard. Part machine.

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    You wouldn't know "productive" if it used your prostate for a speed bag.
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    It's amazing how O2C was talking about puberty blockers for teenagers, yet somehow you responded with multiple angry rants about adult trans people playing adult sports and very very occasionally winning. It's almost like reiterating your hatred of trans people is more important than responding to any of the facts laid out before you. :marathon:
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  5. Bailey

    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Acknowledged, considered, same difference.

    Though let's run with assuming it is different. Based on your claim, and the studies provided, what are the consequences not being acknowledged then?
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  6. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    The Vox article above mentions "social contagion" theory.
    It's dressed up in a bunch of concern trolling language, and pseudo-science jargon, but it boils down to "transes can change your kids like vampires".
    They used to use it on gays (still do, in fact), and they openly came out with "they're out to turn your kids".
    Y'know, like a fucking vampire.
    Both versions hinge on every time more of a group comes out, they twist it to mean more are "turning" and not that they were terrorized into the closet before.
    Easier to believe in fucking vampires than that you're a terrorist piece of dog shit, and so's your political party, and so's your church.
    Betcha UA/FF believe in it.
    Betcha they do.
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  7. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    *Runs search*
    Yep, they coded it as "it's trendy".
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  8. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    The only place that's happening is in right wing fanfiction on Trump's Truther app.

    The trans woman who completed the UK marathon placed 6,120 out of 12k participants. With that stat, she'd probably fared similarly in the men's competition.

    The sports thing is a wedge issue that the right is using to strip trans people of ALL rights to exist and y'all suckers are falling for it.
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  9. Order2Chaos

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    Study limitations:
    • small sample sizes (largest control group was 27)
    • None of the subjects were athletes (but though all were active or very active, there's a world of difference between a regular jogger and a even a high school athlete, let alone a college or pro athlete)
    • None of them had received puberty blockers and all had gone through at least some puberty before transitioning
    Still, it’s not totally useless. It strongly suggests several other possible studies to do. If further studies on athletes confirm this 3rd, significantly different mode in these distributions (for athletes), that would suggest the fair course of action is to have a third gender category for post-puberty-transitioning trans women. Other studies on non-athlete trans women suggest that puberty blockers prevent male-type bone and muscle development. If that generalizes to athletes (another study is needed here too), there's no reason puberty-blocked trans women could not compete with cis women, and the third category could be a minor historical blip as trans girls are able to get the care they need in time. This would, of course, be dependent on that actually happening, and people like you not getting in the way of puberty blockers.
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    Yes, we are ignoring that. This is a question about getting trans children the puberty blockers they need in time so that this is never an issue again. You keep moving the goalposts from one end of the field (puberty blockers) to the other (post-puberty transitioners) and back. Stop it.
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    You know, it's amazing the kind of things that you can learn when you go out in the world and experience things.

    I have a lot of trans friends. Why? Because we all happen to be fans of the same podcast and I've posted on social media that I'm cool with trans rights. So, even though we don't really have much in common, they've wanted to be friends with me since they know I won't try and hate on them, or kill them, just for who they are.

    At least one of them, I've met IRL before they started hormones and the full transition process. She's a very kind person and loves to hug people. She's hugged me before she started hormones, and hugged me years after she's had bottom surgery and been on hormones. The first time she hugged me, it was like getting hugged by a Wookie. Post-hormones and surgery, she still gives great hugs, but it's not like at all like getting hugged by a Wookie because she no longer has the strength to do so.
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  12. Diacanu

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    Wonder if other colors of the LGBT rainbow besides trans are spread by "social contagion"
    @Uncle Albert , @Bill Carson , care to elaborate for us?
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    Give every kid hormone blockers until they turn 18. Then they can consent to whatever operation they want at that point.

    And I mean every kid.

    Hell, might extend lifespans that way?
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    People making uninformed decisions based on LGBQWERTY propaganda.
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  19. Diacanu

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    Would you say...it's a social contagion? :chris:
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    I remember all that propaganda back in the 70's when I was 5. I remember how my italian roman catholic family was all about sucking dick and being trans. My mom told me to be trans every day and when I came out she was so happy to tell everyone. Every parent totally wants to have their kid be gay or trans. The internet was all a buzz about it too.

    I really want to go to this imaginary world in UA's head where people are so open to the idea and celebrate when their child is trans or gay instead of mourning their dreams of a cishet male child. I want to mee the people in UAs life who hate him for being cishet, and shame him for it. I do not think they exist outside of his lies.
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  22. Diacanu

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    All right, dunce.
    It says it lifts the ban on care for everyone, and then says it CAN include surgery.
    Yes, for adults, because they fall under the tent of "everyone".
    You NEED them to ay "but not the kids tho!! Let's make that very clear!"?
    They assumed you're not brain damaged.
    It's their fault, really.
    They should use crayon drawn diagrams for Idiocracy citizens like yourself.
    All news outlets should slow themselves down for dummies.
    And Medicare should pay for it.
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    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    I guess you’ve never heard of loopholes. They specifically lifted the ban for minors so that they can have surgeries.
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    That was a general info drop about all trans people from the article writer, not what's in the law.
    Dimwit.
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    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    I've answered yours, now answer mine.

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    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    I’m not responding to a straw man question.
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  27. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Oh, good, you just handed me the stock cut-and-paste answer to all of your shit.
    Numbnuts.
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    'member when FF actually answered a question? WF archives doesn't because it never happens.
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    Back on the trans topic.

    Years ago I was in Walmart checking out while I was full time as a woman and transitioning. I was talking with my friend and some lady in front of us on line turned around and said in a nervous voice "At least there is money in it." Me and myu friend had a good chuckle as I joked around about missing some checks.

    Maybe it is not a joke. It seems that across the world there are a ton of cishet men who feel the world gives everything to GLBT people and drag queens. Maybe I am missing something. I have been to some drag shows, and even some in churches, and people give thew drag queens money. I have not gone into many interviews for jobs as a woma, so maybe they would just hire me if I wore a drwess and fuck that resume shit.

    Is it actually a thing that people are just throwing away perfectly good white boys? It seems that there are so many white boys out there whining because women, GLBT people, blacks, drag queens, hispanics, and everyone else has it so easy. Is there a government department of trans and dick sucking where I have a fortune in back checks waiting? Did I waste all those years educating myself in IT and other things while doing interviews when I just needed to wear a dress and I get promoted to the secret building where all the other queens and women run the company?

    I spent all this time as a white dude and no one told me? Also, why haven't all the grifters on the right started doing drag if that is where all the money, popwer, opportunity, and love is?

    Let me get out my occam's razor and cut this shit. Oh no, looks like it is just the worthless whiteboi society lying again and there is not some secret cabal of non-whitebois ruling the world. It is just @Jenee fucker and sammich boy lying yet again.
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  30. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Sure it was.
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