Cloverfield rant (spoilers)

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  1. Volpone

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    How about Fellowship of the Ring?
  2. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Both of those actually were complete stories - not just all the story, if you follow.

    Found some info on the Cloverfield Creature:

    An interesting set of choices for the creature design, but I would have liked it if it was even remotely realistic.

    Of course, this is from wiki, so who knows. Maybe it's wrong.
  3. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    It's expectation - almost everyone knew going in that wasn't going to be a stand alone story.

    Of course, I remember the first time I saw it the groan from the audience when it ended - all I could think of was 'illiterate motherfuckers, aren't you?' LOL.
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    No way it's from Earth. A creature THAT big with a parasitic species that size in shallow water would have some history already.
    That's not one, but TWO previously unknown, yet very hard to miss species to account for.
  5. Chris

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    It's built to withstand pressures at the bottom of the sea. Tough, natural armor.
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    It's not. It's from (supposedly) the mid-ocean trenches. It's first victim was an oil rig in the Atlantic, and people surmised that it followed an oil tanker to New York.
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    Well if it's from the mid-ocean trenches, then what's this BS about the splash at the end of the video being a satellite falling on the creature, 'waking it up?'

    Is all this stuff people are spouting coming from Abrams himself, or is this just shit people are making up? :garamet:
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    LOTR gets a pass because the original novel it's based upon was ONE novel that Tolkien's publishers forced to cut into bite-sized chunks. Even back then, our cultural attention span was beginning to wane :jayzus:

    Considering the vast scope and breadth of the storyline, any attempt to adapt LOTR for the screen would unavoidably be an unusual event. Too expensive for TV, too long for one movie. So accommodations must be made.
  9. Demiurge

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    A website claims Abrams said it, and wiki references that. Of course, that means shit without the original attribution.

    However, the viral marketing for the movie included a series of web sites, including one for a Japanese megacorp that was involved in deep sea mineral resources off the Mid Atlantic trench, research on 'extremovores', ie creatures adapted to incredibly harsh living conditions, and one of their news clips mention a satellite falling out of orbit and impacting off the coast of New York.

    Which STILL doesn't resolve the issue, because an impact visible from Coney Island sure as fuck isn't going to be anywhere near the Mid Atlantic Trench.

    Trying a little too hard to be cool, and not hard enough to be smart.

    Which is the movie in a nutshell.
  10. Demiurge

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    OK, here's an interview with Matt Reeves, the director:
    http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/cloverfield-interview-with-director-matt-reeves.php

    This is where the

    Hopefully a lot of this turns out to be contradicted by the later film, because it's not making a hell of a lot of sense right now.
  11. Demiurge

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    hmmm... evidentally the viral marketing has some of the background story.

    Slusho is the company that Rob works for in Japan, and it's parent company is Tagrauto.

    http://www.tagruato.jp/
    http://www.slusho.jp/

    There's reference to a couple things there - a broken off satellite that fell off the coast of the US, the fact Slusho has a special ingrediant from the deep sea bed, and that Ganu, the son of the original owner of the company who disappeared mysteriously, had a dream of growing into a giant whale after drinking the mystery ingredient.

    Whatever the hell that means. :)

    Edit - and a fake newscast on an attack on a tagruato oil rig in the Mid-Atlantic Ridge:[YT="oil rig"]NfTWm1nCgLc[/YT]

    You can see gunfire from the rig and the shadow of the monster.
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    Sounds like a terribly stupid thing.

    The food requirements alone would make it easy for us to spot if it was off the coast of Coney Island.

    How does it survive out of the water? How does the "parasites" survive out of the water then? Why haven't those parasites attacked other species? Where they asleep too?

    Why does it have legs? It should be a swimmer if it's always down that deep. Hell how can it support itself on land then? If it's made for water it's gonna have a hard time walking around on land. There is no water to support it anymore.

    Natural armor? I don't think so. Nothing on this planet that is organic can stop a tank round or a 2000 lb JDAM or a MOAB (which is probably what they used at the end from the sounds of it). It sure as hell can't stop a nuke which is what they should use when it enters New Jersey. Solve two problems... no make that three because of the parasites... at once. ;)

    Certainly no satellite "woke" it up. Hell it would have awoken a long time ago as we were blowing shit up during WWII all over the oceans.

    No it would have made more sense for it to come from outerspace then from the earth itself.
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    Oh and if that's a baby I'd hate to see mommy and daddy. Probably as big as the whole damn ocean floor. :lol:
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    The creation of Godzilla was blamed on US nuclear testing.


    Apparently, the Cloverfield monster is the result of Japanese experimentation...
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    This would parallel the Godzilla story. Godzilla was an Iguana that was exposed to nuclear fallout.
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    Exactly, the whole idea for the story came from JJ Abrams seeing a godzilla toy in a toy store and thinking "America doesn't have its own monster".
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    Bad example. Kill Bill was set up from the get-go as one long movie broken into two releases.
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    That's what I mean.

    Unless you're saying it was MEANT to be one movie and he was forced to split it in two.
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    That's exactly what we're saying.

    It was originally ONE movie, but it went too long for the studios to be comfortable with it.
    So he split it and reedited it into two movies, and in doing so made it a bit longer.
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    I dunno, I did a search for Cloverfield Monster and the pictures that came up look and tad different than yours. Is it possible that one of these is actually the real deal?

    [?=Monster 1][​IMG][/?]


    [?=Monster 2][​IMG][/?]


    [?=Monster 3][​IMG][/?]
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    And there's a company named Slusho (and it has a parent company Tagrauto) that is somehow responsible for this whole mess?


    And this movie is from the guy behind Lost?


    :shock:


    OMG! It's worse than I could have ever imagined!


    Tagrauto is going to turn out to be the parent company for Dharma too!!!
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    Only saw this for the first time last week.
    Just watching it for a second time now.

    Good film, I was pleasantly suprised. Most of the characters were very annoying (esp the cameraman) and it was generally a relief when they died.
    It was a very good way to tell a story, both in terms of the only 1 camera and the flashbacks when the filming was interrupted.


    Definite 8/10
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    I woulda watched it happily if it were just two solid hours of this young lass:

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