A Stupid Rule

Wasn't this something that happened after I went off on a patented half-cocked Number_6 rant on both TrekBBS and Wordforge?

I seem to remember fucking with Bonzie over something like this.

If so, I don't even remember the specifics of it. Do whatever it is she wants, if my opinion means more than fuck all.

Again, it isn't about TrekBBS. There is very little actual hatred for TrekBBS around here anymore.

Read mburtonk's post, he says it very well...WF is full of fiesty, opinionated and sometimes outrageous personalities, for WF it is a useful thing to have a hidden forum where people can feel safe venting and administrations from other boards using it as a place to spy and work up people they don't like so they can nail them is against that philosophy.

Ten Lubek admitted that he only join the Gray Room in order to use it that way. If J.Allen had done that, we would still have just as much of an issue. If MissManners did that, we would still have an issue. Wordforge is not "out to get" people from TrekBBS no matter how many times you try and paiint it that way.

I don't even remember upon whom I was supposed to be spying so long ago. The only thing that stuck with me was being pissed at having them pull a non-existent (back then) rule out of their asses to try to "get me". Had the rule been up, I wouldn't have been half so irked, although I would have still fought it, as I don't come to WF to "spy" (or anywhere.) I come to other boards to be me, to relax and I'm not "at work" when I'm here or when I used to be at TK (before it jumped the shark.)

She was trained by a master in the art of "Permanent Victim Syndrome"

Don't hire an asshole to be a mod next time.

This the Help Desk, not the Red Room.

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In this case I think Ramens statement is very relevant....and accurate.

It sounds like you would like WF staff to do something you wouldn't be willing to do at your own board.

Protection to morons? Do you allow people to post information about TNZ in QSF? Last I checked the policy was a big no, no, and what is said in TNZ stays in TNZ. Why should the gray room at WF be any different? Why should Garak, or any other moderator be able to join the Gray Room with the goal of targeting posters at Trekbbs?

Well you are different than Garak in how you go about handling things.

While I understand this point, I think there *are* some truly dick-head moderators that would gladly ban someone just for even complaining about their board behind their back. From what I've heard, Lisa was one of those folks, which is why the Grey Room is hidden. We do have some truly stupid people crowing about trolling up the place lately, but my interpretation of the rule wasn't to protect them as much as the truly innocent.

That being said, the rule was put in place with certain mods (Not necessarily T'Bonz) in mind, who are no longer posters at this board.I don't think it'll hurt to make this one of those "case-by-case" issues.

This is a good point. Would anyone like to retort?

Depends on what he meant by extending it to the Blue Room.

Are you saying then it's ok to "get" someone from this board for something they post in an open forum? Just not the closed ones?


mm

LOL. They won't like THAT question.

The whole thing is lame. I stand by what I say, if anyone is STUPID enough to plot openly on a board, closed forum or not, they deserve to be banned for being a dumbass alone.

I guess each board is entitled to having "lame" rules.

The Blue Room rules already cover it:

I don't buy the "complicit in the abuse of a Wordforge member on another website" thing about why the Gray should remain hidden.

If the Gray Room remains a hidden room, then yes obviously anyone misusing information from it should have access restricted since that is a reason for making it hidden.

However if the Gray Room was to be opened fully then it becomes no different to any other room in which the exact same complacency argument could be used.

Example: Someone contacted Daytons school with a link to a Red Room thread he had made. Does that mean that by having the Red Room available to read as a non-subscription open forum that Wordforce is complacent in trying to get him in trouble elsewhere? Of course not.

And again, I would urge people, don't put stuff online if you're afraid someone will use it against you. Truly. Use common sense and be cautious. You don't know who sits behind the keyboard on the other side of that screen.

A closed forum, with or without rules, is zero protection. Assume anything you post online, including in private forums or PMs, may be used against you and protect yourself accordingly.

And that Blue Room Rule? Is that only if someone decides to use that info ON WF or does that include other boards as well. And what if the info in question is also posted in another place on the net?


mm

To what extent should the above apply? Should it extend to those who might become uncomfortable with certain words that are used and posted online because they might take those words to heart and feel they are personal attacks?

With information from the Blue Room I would be seeking to block Blue Room access to someone using the information in it against another poster anywhere on the internet.

As for the information elsewhere on the net rules, unless someone has talked about stuff in an open forum on Wordforge you generally shouldn't be reposting that information on Wordforge.

The Blue Room rules already cover use of Blue Room personal info on this board; I mean the rule should cover reported use (or now that I think about it, possibly only abuse) of Blue Room personal info on other boards - do it and get your Blue Room access revoked.

And what about Blue Room info that has been pruned? Is that fair game now? And Gray Room info that has been pruned? Because I went looking for a couple of threads and they no longer exist.


mm

If you use another posters personal information without their permission and they complain, the onus is on you to show where they have posted it on Wordforge.

There is at least one instance where I saw Blue Room information in use on another board and I told that person to remove it immediately or there would be consequences here for it...namely a warning and removal from the Blue Room.

Most people are pretty circumspect and respectful of Blue Room information, so thankfully it is a rare issue.