Obama victimizes the poor and helpless

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by Ward, Mar 30, 2009.

  1. Ward

    Ward A Stepford Husband

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2004
    Messages:
    28,284
    Location:
    Mayfield
    Ratings:
    +8,642
    So much for caring for them.

  2. Caedus

    Caedus Fresh Meat Formerly Deceased Member

    Joined:
    May 9, 2006
    Messages:
    3,813
    Ratings:
    +1,554
    I shudder to think of what he'll go after next when the tax hike causes the number of smokers to dwindle and the revenue stream into the massive health care expansion to dry up.
  3. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

    Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee Straight Awesome

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2008
    Messages:
    29,016
    Location:
    TN
    Ratings:
    +14,152
    But... I thought corporations just took the hit when tax increases happened. I thought the little guy was ok?
  4. Ward

    Ward A Stepford Husband

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2004
    Messages:
    28,284
    Location:
    Mayfield
    Ratings:
    +8,642
    This tax, I'm guessing, is supposed to discourage an unhealthy lifestyle. With that in mind, get ready for fast food taxes and more alcohol taxes. But I'm guessing you'll never see a condom tax because that would hurt Barney Frank's feelings.
  5. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

    Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee Straight Awesome

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2008
    Messages:
    29,016
    Location:
    TN
    Ratings:
    +14,152
    The Damn Hippies™ think that "safe sex" is safer than abstinence.
  6. 14thDoctor

    14thDoctor Oi

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2007
    Messages:
    31,075
    Ratings:
    +48,041
    Doesn't happen.

    Smokers are addicts. They'll keep paying.

    A single pack is ten to thirteen dollars where I live, because there's so much tax on it.

    And the smokers keep paying.
    • Agree Agree x 1
  7. Chris

    Chris Cosmic Horror

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2004
    Messages:
    28,946
    Ratings:
    +4,331
    OH SHUT THE FUCK UP

    Cigarettes? Are you fucking kidding me? You're going to fucking rail against a cigarette tax by using the poor? Goddamn Bock, I knew you were off the reservation, but this is just nuts.

    Go join Stormfront you loon, we don't need your shit here.
    • Agree Agree x 1
  8. Muad Dib

    Muad Dib Probably a Dual Deceased Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2004
    Messages:
    53,665
    Ratings:
    +23,779
    Yayyyyy! The Nanny State strikes again! :dayton:

    I'm going to mail a teabag tag and some Marlboro Miles to my Congress Critters.
    Last edited: Mar 30, 2009
  9. Ward

    Ward A Stepford Husband

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2004
    Messages:
    28,284
    Location:
    Mayfield
    Ratings:
    +8,642
    I'm off the reservation? :lol: You're the one whose spittle is practically flying out of the screen.
  10. Chris

    Chris Cosmic Horror

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2004
    Messages:
    28,946
    Ratings:
    +4,331
    I never claimed to be sane.
  11. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

    Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee Straight Awesome

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2008
    Messages:
    29,016
    Location:
    TN
    Ratings:
    +14,152
    So... where did anyone else in this thread claim sanity? And is not claiming sanity like the Chewbacca defense?
  12. Chris

    Chris Cosmic Horror

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2004
    Messages:
    28,946
    Ratings:
    +4,331
    Bock Bock is crazy and discredited?

    Great.
  13. Ward

    Ward A Stepford Husband

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2004
    Messages:
    28,284
    Location:
    Mayfield
    Ratings:
    +8,642
    Wow. Judgment has come and gone and no one bothered to bring me my medication.
  14. Chris

    Chris Cosmic Horror

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2004
    Messages:
    28,946
    Ratings:
    +4,331
    You have a habit of not taking them. :(
  15. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2004
    Messages:
    50,154
    Location:
    Spacetime
    Ratings:
    +53,512
    There are but two possibilities:

    People will continue to smoke, in which case the government exploits an unhealthy practice to gain revenues; or

    People will decrease smoking, in which case the government will seek to make up those revenues elsewhere.
  16. Ward

    Ward A Stepford Husband

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2004
    Messages:
    28,284
    Location:
    Mayfield
    Ratings:
    +8,642
    Cuz they sure as heck ain't going to cut spending...
    • Agree Agree x 6
  17. Worfthing

    Worfthing Fresh Meat

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2008
    Messages:
    109
    Ratings:
    +114
    No, they think that safe sex is more likely to happen than abstinence, and less likely (than unprotected sex) to result in an unwanted pregnancy.
  18. RickDeckard

    RickDeckard Socialist

    Joined:
    May 28, 2004
    Messages:
    37,919
    Location:
    Ireland
    Ratings:
    +32,532
    Since when are smokers the "poor and helpless"? :dayton:
  19. Ward

    Ward A Stepford Husband

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2004
    Messages:
    28,284
    Location:
    Mayfield
    Ratings:
    +8,642
    Democrats counting on taxing them certainly don't want us to think so.
  20. RickDeckard

    RickDeckard Socialist

    Joined:
    May 28, 2004
    Messages:
    37,919
    Location:
    Ireland
    Ratings:
    +32,532
    They probably don't want us to think that the moon is made of green cheese either. But that doesn't necessarily mean that it is.
  21. Captain X

    Captain X Responsible cookie control

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2009
    Messages:
    15,318
    Location:
    The Land of Snow and Cold
    Ratings:
    +9,731
    It's called a sin tax, and while I think it's stupid to have sin taxes, this has nothing to do with "victimizing" anyone. I can only hope the extra revenue goes toward programs to help people to quit if they want to.
  22. Ward

    Ward A Stepford Husband

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2004
    Messages:
    28,284
    Location:
    Mayfield
    Ratings:
    +8,642
    It's interesting that this tax is pushed by the same crowd that wants to keep religion out of the public square when some policy is pushed for moral reasons.
  23. Captain X

    Captain X Responsible cookie control

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2009
    Messages:
    15,318
    Location:
    The Land of Snow and Cold
    Ratings:
    +9,731
    lolwhut?
    • Agree Agree x 1
  24. Captain J

    Captain J 16" Gunner

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2004
    Messages:
    11,019
    Location:
    Taking a dump
    Ratings:
    +5,144
    Why, Barney doesn't like the feel of cum spraying up his blowhole? It's not like he can pregnant at his age. Maybe he's worried about disease with all those boy hookers he has to use to get any.
  25. Azure

    Azure I could kick your ass

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2007
    Messages:
    12,008
    Ratings:
    +4,416
    It would be a better idea to legalize marijuana and tax the fuck out of it.

    But then again, nobody ever said the government was bright.
  26. Captain J

    Captain J 16" Gunner

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2004
    Messages:
    11,019
    Location:
    Taking a dump
    Ratings:
    +5,144
    It would be a better idea for the gov't to follow the Constitution and stay the fuck out of our lives as much as possible. Somehow very little the gov't does these days seems to be about staying out of our lives.
    • Agree Agree x 1
  27. Starchaser

    Starchaser Fallen Angel

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2005
    Messages:
    5,971
    Location:
    Hiding from aliens
    Ratings:
    +3,261
    Frank needs to die of painfull rectal itch.
  28. Dr. Drake Ramoray

    Dr. Drake Ramoray 1 minute, 42.1 seconds baby!

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2004
    Messages:
    9,366
    Location:
    Central Perk
    Ratings:
    +3,645
    And he needs to give Sylvester the cat his schtick back.
  29. Uncle Albert

    Uncle Albert Part beard. Part machine.

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2004
    Messages:
    60,917
    Location:
    'twixt my nethers
    Ratings:
    +27,823
    So is it legal to grow your own tobacco? :marathon:
  30. 14thDoctor

    14thDoctor Oi

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2007
    Messages:
    31,075
    Ratings:
    +48,041
    I believe so, yes.