^Eleven. And the pilot is set fifty-eight years before the Cylon attack. So he's sixty-nine when they attack?
I think Caprica would have functioned better as a reworked miniseries. We've kind of already seen the only part I'm interested in.
Saw Caprica pilot late last night. Not bad. Interesting. Good ideas. Tad sloppy though. Terrorists, their motives, & whole religion thing, element of it, I found blah, weak, stale. Taurons & their casual nonchalant ethnocentric racism was offensive. The Caprican's anti-Tauron racism was a cliche that's been done to death by a million other shows & movies. Check please! Aside from the sloppy religious stuff & the divisive not so subtle racial propoganda, it's not half-bad. I'll be tuning in next week to see where this goes. I only, appropriately, saw 6 episodes of nuBSG. Episodes 14-16 from nuBSG's final season, & the series Final 3 episodes.
When was all of this stated? I was under the impression that the Cylons disappeared for something like 40 years after the attack and I know Adama wasn't 109 at the start of BSG.
That's "58 years before the fall", i.e. the second attack. And I agree that Adama did not look 69 at the beginning of nuBSG. Also, as much as I loved nuBSG, including the excellent finale, and would like to enjoy Caprica, I still can't watch the pilot without falling asleep. I hope the series picks up the pace, and I wish I lived in that parallel universe where Caprica got cancelled and Virtuality went to a full series.
Without delving into "Caprica" overmuch due to spoiler considerations, suffice it to say that there were aspects of Colonial technology far beyond our current capabilities. And even then, it took a unique alignment of events to create the first self-aware Cylon. It is obvious that, going by certain statements made in the prior BSG series, that the Colonies backed away from robotics and computer technology in the aftermath of the Cylon War, just as in the "Dune" novels humanity abolished computers following the Butlerian Jihad. Therefore it is only reasonable to assume that the technology in Battlestar Galactica was backwards by the standards shown in Caprica or even our own. To use another example - had John Connor's forces in the Terminator universe destroyed Skynet, it is unlikely they would ever allow artificial intelligences to be created again. Or, had there been survivors in the universe of "On the Beach", it is unlikely nuclear weapons would have been developed again. And so forth.
Actually, I've only seen the first hour but it's anything but. I was intrigued by the flipping of the usual religious debate (the polytheist is the cultural norm and the monotheist is the fringe/nut movement) - it looks to me in some ways like first century Roman Empire in a modern setting. the fact that the competing faith systems was so central to the plot was a very bold move and if they stick to their guns the show should have a lot to say. I wonder how much the OP's dislike had to do with the amount of religious undertone in this episode?
Watched #2 last night. They might be making just enough of a freak show out of this to keep me interested.
I think this was a little smoother start to things, but I feel like they have one or two too many pokers in the fire. Mrs. Graystone and Polygamy Now! strike me as the two that could probably go. Also, there was some egregiously bad CG in this episode - definitely not up to Zoic snuff, I've got to say. The CG for the Pyramid stadium was especially bad (and, worse yet, the scene was almost pointless).
I wasn't very impressed with the 2nd episode. I don't know if I'll attempt to keep up with this series or not.
I thought the second episode was way better than the pilot. The pilot was broing in many places; this had an enormous lot going on, all fo which was interesting one way or another. More importantly, it got back to a confident, bold attitude in storytelling that I remember from BSG but felt was missing from the pilot. Just compare the two scenes where Mrs Graystone gets visited by the agent in the pilot and here. In the pilot, the scene tells us nothing we didn't already know, and takes ages to do so. In the new episode, there are so many layers, with Graystone reverting her image of her daughter back to a small girl, then realizing she's doing it, then avoiding that realization.
Was the actress that played Kat in NuBSG in tonight's episode as the PR adviser chick? It looked and sounded like her.
Yes that was Kat as the PR woman. And Methos as the police chief. I frakking love this show. Sister Clarice alone is reason enough to watch. That woman is up to no good. It was her that told Ben to bomb the maglev train. I'm sure of that. Her V world cohort sure seemed upset that Ben had done the bombing and Ben was too much of an idiot to do it on his own. Pretty sad to see Daniel and Amanda both believing so quickly that Zoe was a terrorist when she wasn't. And poor little Tamara-A wandering around V world thinking she's in a dream from which she can't wake up. Damn. That's some sad business.
Holy shit. Caprica sucks balls. It's the Matrix Revolutions of BSG. When does SG-U come back? I really don't need to know any more about the cult, cut throat mob family, corrupt police and dopey technology that led to the fall of the colonies any more than I need to know about the trade disputes and separatists-dumbshit that lead to the Empire's rule and the little rebellion that could.
Oh, and how to save it? Sometimes you've got to roll the hard six. Young William Adams puts his head down on his desk, and when he raises it again, it's 15 years later during the first cylon war. Otherwise, it's a fucking soap opera.
What a freakin joke! Talk about a plot hole last night, or just BAD writing. This is how it went down... [Cylon Girl, NotDeadGirl, and Soon2BeCylonGirlAdama are in a room] AdamaGirl: Help me I'm scared! My heart doesn't beat! Lacey: Who is she? Zoe: My dad must have made her! Lacey: That makes perfect sense! [Cut to another boring scene, then back to internetWorld] AdamaGirl: Well bye, I can find my way home Lacey: ok, see ya! Zoe: Bye! WTF! You just established she was an avatar created by your father, then one scene later you've totally forgot about it. This show sucks.
Without agreeing with everything else you said, I could totally get down with this if it turned out to be the case.
The only shot this show has at being entertaining is skipping forward in massive amounts. It's set way way too early. The pilot told us everything we need to know about right now. The next relevant thing would be the mass sentients of Cylons then the first war.
I'm inclined to agree. I'm not sure if it's because we already know where this is going to end up 58 years from now, and we really don't need to see every agonizingly-slow moment of the development of the first Cylons, or if I just plain don't like the characters, but I keep waiting to be surprised and, so far, nada.
Read an article about this, and a couple of things we will be seeing will be the start of the first cylon war, which starts 5 years from the current date, and something about the 5 skinjobs that were a mystery until near the end of BSG. So far, it's OK. Not great, but keeping my interest.
