Gadaffi calls for jihad against Switzerland

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8537925.stm

Not getting much airtime, this.

Let us wage jihad against Switzerland, Zionism and foreign aggression," he said.

"Any Muslim in any part of the world who works with Switzerland is an apostate, is against Muhammad, God and the Koran."

Of course, jihad doesn't just mean war.

His is a gutter religion so who cares?

I just got back from Switzerland about 15 minutes ago. Glad I didn't encounter too many of those suckers who worship that pig-god allah.

Interesting behavior. While W was pres he was scared, gave up his nuke program, stopped support of terror and behaved like a civilized leader. Barry comes into office and once he sees Barry is a wimp who will never threaten him he returns to his old way.

This is the difference between a president who is perceived of as strong and one who perceived of as a wimp.

Can we get in on this?

He just hates cuckoo clocks.

And that they arrested his son a while back.

Why was his son even at a luxury hotel in Switzerland? He should have been visiting all the beauty + splendor of the Muslim world!
Iraq, Saudi Arabia, etc. must have awesome party + vacation resorts.

Matter of fact your own continent of Africa must appreciate your tourism dollars too! Way to not support local businesses.

BTW Gadaffi - remember this? What a night that was!

Oh c'mon, your full of shit. This whole thing started in July 2008 when Swiss police arrested Gaddafis son and escalated quickly, with him taking two Swiss hostages, forcing Swiss business in Lybia to close and pulling all of his money out of Swiss bank accounts.
Guess who was president of the US back then? This tough guy:



Hate to disappoint you, but not everything happening in this world is a direct result of what goes on in the US.

Ah yes, we were ransacking the Muslim world, and Gaddafi came to terms with the west. But they stopped building minarets in Switzerland, and now he's calling for Jihad.

If you don't think his actions have to do with who is in power in the US at the time, you are looking at this issue like someone whose family has never been killed by F15s. Hint - Gaddaffi's has.

No way in hell he would have the term Jihad and a western nation in the middle of last decade.

Hell, Yasser Arafat broke down in tears when he heard the news of 911. He knew that AQ had gone too far and lots of people in the Middle East were going to pay the price for that.

Oh, and I'm sure Gaddaffi is very upset about the Minarets. One of his more famous quotes:

It is revealing that right-wingers are so proud of this act.

Anyone else think Gadaffi spends most of his day muttering into his oatmeal? He's like 112 now.

He just wants their chocolate and boobalicious blondes.

And its revealing that left-wingers are so unable to understand power politics. Gaddaffi was brought to heel due to strength, not weakness. He's a playground bully, and he's at it again. He thinks nothing of kidnapping innocents and using them against the swiss government.

And once again its interesting where Rick's sympathies lay. Oh, he'll say 'oh, I don't support Gaddaffi in this' but he never will criticize him about it unless someone else brings it up. He only criticizes the western governments.

Again and again and again.

Might want to check who started this thread.

I did, and I don't see any criticism there. I see an excuse - "Of course, Jihad doesn't just mean war."

Yeah, because pointing out what he means is "an excuse".
Pretty obvious that I started the thread because insufficient attention has been given to what he's said. If you think that's because I sympathise with him, then once again I must laugh at you.

Which goes back to:

I don't recall F-15s ever being used in a strike against Libya.

F-111 Aardvarks, F-14 Tomcats, F/A-18 Hornets, A-6 Intruders, and A-7s.

But not F-15 Eagles.

I could be wrong I suppose.

Everytime I see the word minarets I hum Rock the Casbah.

OK, I was having too much fun with the argumentation itself and how to twist it back against Rick.

Yes, there's reasonable interpretation that he brought this up as a criticism of Gaddaffi and that I'm wrooo...wrooooonnnn..... might be incorrect.

Point withdrawn.

The part about the F-whatevers blowing up his relatives however is still relevant however. Not in a chest beating 'we'll fuck your stuff up America fuck yeah' but in the reality of how it affected his outlook and actions.

There's very little doubt we could have removed him from power after 911. That's when he helped us disband the nuclear black market (a really stupid idea on his part, as if it ever succeeded and a nuke hit the west Libya would take the blame) and paid reparations for previous terrorist acts.

It wasn't until Bush spent his political capital in the Iraq War and was a lame duck he started making noise again, and that was because his son was involved.

He certainly wouldn't have been throwing around the term Jihad back then.

I don't care about Gadaffi the camelfucker and torturer of his own people. He is a maniac after all and is considered so even in the islamic world. I care about the Italian government which kisses his ass on a regular basis. Berlusconi and Gadaffi are best friends. The Italians keep defending Libya in the EU, whatever the maniac says or does.

When the Swiss hostage is released in a few months(I hope this will happen and the guy is not tortured in prison), Switzerland should end all relationships with Libya. Of course, our weak government will do nothing of this sort, because it could "hurt the economy".

He might be right there!

Ah, but Switzerland has something that the Muslim world doesn't - Swiss banks.

And I'm sure that Lil' Kim in NK wouldn't have dared to test a nuke while Bush was in office. Oh, wait. . .

Last I heard Gaddaffi doesn't have 50,000 artillery pieces trained at a major US allies capital. Not that he needs a nuke - Seoul is toast if the Korean War goes hot again, and both sides know it.

Gaddaffi doesn't have nearly that type of ace in the hole. He rolled over and played dead, and everyone saw him do it.

Completely different situation, dumbass.

NK also doesn't have the Chinese drooling over its oil reserves and so chomping at the bit to get at them that the Brits figured they'd better cut a deal first so that they'd have influence over the nutbag.

Reserves that existed when Gaddaffi rolled over and played dead for the US after 911 because he knew they had no love for him and he was vulnerable. China has no ability to project power, and can't defend Gaddaffi, even if they wanted to.

NK could test nukes back then because they had a deterrent. Gaddaffi didn't then, and doesn't now.

He's just evaluating the situation differently because of the change in US foreign policy when the 'cowboy' was going to be leaving office.

That's not why he's calling for Jihad. From the article:

This is a personal feud between Switzerland and Gadaffi. He's only calling it a jihad because it sounds better than "I hate them because they embarrassed my family."

Small diplomatic skirmish. Look at the tone he's taken and his behavior in the last year and the difference is obvious. Calling for Jihad is very different than arresting a couple of people.