Check Acts again. "Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting ME?" No someone else, not my son; ME. Prove that he hated sex and women. IIRC the letter was to a very hedonistic people before they became Christian and they still wanted to live that hedonistic lifestyle which was counter to Christianity so of course he would rebuff them and sound very negative about their lifesty
I really need to stop checking this thread just because it has "lesbian" in the thread title. Most disappointing.
This suggests you don't subscribe to the Trinity. Otherwise, if what applies to one Person applies to all three, you'd have to argue that all three Persons were crucified, wouldn't you? That could get complicated.
Oh God are we still on this? Can't the kids just make their own prom since the authorities/proper channels are so hung up? Surely there's gotta be some rich kid in the class who could jew his parents into letting them use the house for a night. They can even do it the old fashioned way. You go to the prom by invite. Everyone else just goes straight to sex.
Or that you're not explaining yourself very well. True or false? There is no evidence that Paul ever met Jesus the man.
No evidence he didn't either He was old enough to have been in Judea during Jesus' lifetime; he was there when Stephen, first martyr was stoned - he was the guy in charge of keeping everyone's cloak from getting stolen. Thus he was old enough to have been around when Jesus was alive; perhaps that's when he first got his "hate" on. And the Trinity has always confused some. It's three persons: Father, Son and Holy Spirit (or Ghost if you're real old school) but one God. http://www.christiancrafters.com/sermon_trinity.htm has a short explanation. Granted, some will not consider it one but that is their problem.
Moot point. There is this thing called "faith," an idea so abstract it doesn't require evidence. This belief or commitment to what one does not know without tangible proof is part of what Christianity is all about.
Yes, I'm aware of this thing called "faith." But it shouldn't make one incapable of acknowledging fact. My point was that there's no evidence that Paul ever met Jesus face to face. LizK's point seems to be something else entirely. I'm trying to pin down exactly what that is.
That Paul was not a woman-hating, sex-hating individual any more than any other man of that era was. The letter to the Corinthians was to a group of folks that had lived in a hedonistic society and were trying to maintain that lifestyle and Paul was telling them they couldn't. That is what we were discussing before you veered off course to "Paul never knew Jesus."
All of that is a subset under the overarching question: Did Paul ever meet Jesus in the flesh, or are you claiming that because he heard the voice of God on the road to Damascus, it amounts to the same thing? Once we get that settled, we can address the lesser points.
I like that idea. I never thought of being a porn producer before. I bet they make alot more money than the worthless job brings in that I work.
That's silly. I'm not saying anyone is a lesser person than me. I do have an obligation to speak out when horrible behavior is mainstreamed and paraded as "normal". Be a man. Take a stand.
Our was like this as well. Our class advisor worked with the class officers and the Prom Committee to designate money from our class budget for senior events. We got a prom, a project graduation overnight party at a NH ski resort and a white water rafting trip with money left over for the ten-year reunion. We were adept at fund raising, saving money and budgeting. It meant a hell of a lot more that way, too. Plus, Prom Committee was fun.
There's no analogy there. "Separate but equal" racial laws are a different beast because they divide individuals into one group or another. What I'm suggesting is quite the opposite, that these contrived distinctions of "gay" and "straight" should not be recognized, that everyone be put in the same position and held to the same standard. In fact, it is the gay community that argues for "separate but equal" treatment, when they put the label of "homosexual" on their lifestyles, engineer historically unique institutions such as "gay marriage" and then expect their relationships to be held in the same regard as traditional ones. The heroine of this thread wants to separate herself from the rest of the prom by wearing a tux and bringing a date of the same gender, but still be treated as an equal.
And yet I see nothing wrong with a woman wearing a tux. Some women pull it off rather nicely, actually.
It doesn't matter? Let's put it in the form of a modern parable: Man comes into the ER of LizK's hospital suffering from head trauma. Says he suffered a fall. Tests indicate he's had a seizure. He says "God spoke to me, and told me to preach the Word of Jesus." See where I'm going with this?
At my daughter's wedding, a woman was one of the groomsmen (close friend of the groom.) She didn't wear a tux, but wore a really cool dress with a wrap. It was the same color as the tuxes, but I thought it was neat that she went that route instead of wearing a tux.