Too bad Rush had to apologize but he knows how the games played as a Conservative he had to apologize while someone like (as I posted before) Bill Maher doesn't....that's also how Maher can give Obama re-election campaign a million dollars and no one in the media is going to ask if Obama was outrage by what Maher called Sara Palin and wether he should take the money.....while on the other hand all Republicans are asked to take direct responsibility for what Rush said. Well atleast Ms Flukes 15mins are about up. One last thing...I know Obama called Fluke to give her a thumbs up but has he called the family of Boarder Officer Brian Terry to apologize for his death as result of Obama's Justice Dept's Fast and Furious gun running operation? THere that should put some gas on the fire.
I've already admitted that I can't speak for the representatives of the Right who actually serve in elected office. They face different temptations, and often serve different motives than the rest of us. But I think you'll find a surprising number of people in the Right's base who disagree with the statement that government "is a good and necessary aspect of society." To them, government is a necessary evil. And what they would like to see their representatives doing more is containing that evil to only those situations where it is truly necessary. The contrasting view on the Left is: "This looks like a problem -- how can the government solve it?" At their bases, one side views government as a tool of last resort, while the other side uses it like a favorite hammer. Which is pretty descriptive, considering how rarely anything actually gets fixed with a hammer.
The pill is not an abortive agent. It prevents contraception from taking place. You can't "abort" something that never existed.
Anyway, this whole thing smacks of Rush trying to get his name back out there. Am I supposed to believe that one day after the next generation of conservative punditry drops dead on a walk (or was shot by an Obama heart attack gun), Rush didn't say "I'm gonna get them talking about ME again!!!" and pick out the most inflamatory target he could?
Paladin, I simply don't have time to continue our discussion (and this isn't the best medium for it anyway), but I strongly suggest you read Predictably Irrational by Dan Ariely, Freakonomics and SuperFreakonomics: Global Cooling, Patriotic Prostitutes, and Why Suicide Bombers Should Buy Life Insurance by Steven Levitt and Stephen Dubner. Unlike most economists, these guys don't rely on theory, and instead study things in the real world. Surprisingly enough, their work has shown that most of the underlying assumptions economists of all stripes have had are wrong to one degree or another. This shouldn't be surprising, when you think about it. Economics should be as hard a science as physics, where everyone is pretty much in agreement with one another, instead of the mess we have now, where no two economists seem to agree with one another on anything. A system where people only pay for what they think they need or want, sounds nice in theory, but as those books show, is completely unworkable in the real world for a number of reasons. After all, if people were good enough at making the right decisions on their own (and respecting the rights of their neighbors), there never would have been a need for governments to be created to begin with. I'll also note that its rather hypocritical when people who have no trouble trusting the government with things like nuclear weapons and the justice system, claim that the government in no way can be trusted with tax money. If the government is shitty at handling tax dollars, the last thing it should be allowed to do is play with nuclear weapons or run the legal system.
Gotta say, I'm genuinely surprised by Paladin's position in this thread. I had no idea he could be so dogmatic. Either that, or I just haven't been paying attention.
By the way, did I miss the outrage when Bill Maher called Sarah Palin a 'dumb twat', 'bimbo' and a 'cunt' one year ago? Or was there just not any? Hmmmmm? Good ol' lefty hypocrisy, eh? You can set your watch to it.
Were you outraged? Did you take action? Of course you didn't. That would cut into your time chasing Asian bitches.
Action? What in the fuck are you talking about? Is this really the best distraction you can come up with to avoid discussing the reaction to what Limbaugh said versus what Maher said? You contribute absolutely nothing here. At least you were entertaining back in the days when you use to talk about how you would feel rage when you saw happy couples in public. But these days? You're as useless as tits on a fucking bull.
Yeah, yanno, the stuff people do when they're not on message boards. Maybe sandbagger can give you a definition.
Physicists are in agreement only on the stuff that can be easily measured and determined. There are huge differences of opinion on the hairy stuff, where no one is really sure what is going on. Economics is the science of human interactions at a large scale. Can you imagine how hard physics would be if each particle in the universe had free choice, and most of them acted irrationally some of the time, and some of them acted irrationally all of the time? That would be comparable to economics. The reason there are no good economic models is that the science of economics is several orders of magnitude more complicated than physics. Perhaps one day we will have enough data to make economics more of a "hard science" but that day is certainly not today, nor is it coming in the foreseeable future. People are way too complicated for that. Don't be so hard on economists, sociologists, phychologists, and others who deal with human sciences. I used to be in "hard science" and have moved into the field of human science. "Hard" science is childishly easy compared to human science.
Point 3: Limbaugh's place in American public life is in no way comparable to that of David Letterman, Bill Maher or Ed Schultz. Letterman? Hell no. Schulz, different context. Bill Maher? Exactly the same thing, a bloviating man-bitch.
Granted, but Mahar has little to no influence with the left. (Last time I bothered listening, he was telling people he was a Libertarian.) Limbaugh has a ridiculous amount of influence with the right.
And under any other circumstances, Rightyforge would be chanting "That's the way the free market is supposed to work!"
