Anybody change their mind?

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  1. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Something Apostle said in Volpone's "fuck those mother fucking idiot liberals" thread:

    Does that actually happen? Let's share our stories -- I'll start!

    I'm not sure you can say I changed my mind, but my views on gun control have definitely "evolved" as a result of many Red Room discussions. I was never an out and out grabber, but I was of the opinion that efforts against gun violence were best served by reducing gun availability. Now my focus is on emphasizing safe practices. If we can lessen the number of ill-prepared, poorly trained gun owners, much of the danger will go away and the stigma some hold for gun owners might likewise begin to dissipate or at least turn toward specific bad actions rather than an entire class of people.

    Okay, who's next?
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  2. Sokar

    Sokar Yippiekiyay, motherfucker. Deceased Member

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    I've changed my mind.

    Once upon a time, I believed that if you looked hard enough, you can find some shred of redeeming value in a liberal.

    Age and wisdom have taught me otherwise.
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  3. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Thanks for playing, Sokar, this is a thread for the grown-ups.
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  4. Sokar

    Sokar Yippiekiyay, motherfucker. Deceased Member

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    Then get the fuck out, dick nose.

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  5. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Maybe you should go find a place where groupthink is the order of the day. It's clear that you have fear issues regarding disagreement. Isn't there some better place you talked about, where mighty rep warriors could go and shout down disagreement?
  6. Sokar

    Sokar Yippiekiyay, motherfucker. Deceased Member

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    Shower me with some more of your mindless talking points and then talk to me again about groupthink. Hit those blogs and regurgitate some horseshit for me. That's what you do best.

    Go on.

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  7. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Yeah, those first couple weeks when Sokar was a noob, I thought he was a neat guy.

    :diacanu:
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  8. Sokar

    Sokar Yippiekiyay, motherfucker. Deceased Member

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    Yawn.

    Seriously.
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    You could say I was a little more anti gay ten years ago, but once you embrace laissz faire in all things, intellectual honesty requires you to be consistent.

    That and the perpetual warfare state tires me, I'm ready to gut the military industrial complex.
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    Ive moved from centre-left to centre* in terms of financial and international politics.

    (*'centre' and 'left' represent values as in the real world, not America)
  11. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    I've gone from blatant warhawk to "can we stop this shit please?" over the course of the last 20 years in Iraq.
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    I've become less concerned with ideology or theory and more concerned about what actually works.
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    I went from far right to just slightly left of centrist. I've also become decidedly anti-establishment the past couple of years as I feel the system is broke, and that people in general are too stupid/lazy/greedy/power-hungry to fix it.
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    Over the course of ten years, I've gone from staunch, dyed-in-the-wool, devout Christian conservative minister, to moderated, rational, agnostic, liberal, a surfeit of policy changes and personal belief changing in that process.
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  15. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    I still like girls, though.
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    Spaceturkey i can see my house

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    probably lost a lot of my faith in "the market" to be self correcting.

    not that I've gained any in the choice of clowns we have to fix it.
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    Exactly the sort of "adult" repartee I've come to expect from you, Couch Slayer. :lol:

    Anyway, I've changed my mind on many things. Whiskey, brussel sprouts, Military adventurism, Baseball.....all things I've changed my mind on. I've also become more conservative as the years grind on, I used to be a huge pinko in my misspent youth.
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  18. Storm

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    I used to think Germans were people. Now I know.

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  19. Prufrock

    Prufrock Disturbing the Universe

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    I've gone from on-the-fence to more solidly pro-choice and against military adventurism. I've changed my mind on the issue of whether trans-related medical expenses should be covered by insurance from opposing to being in favor. I've gone from being in favor of the death penalty to opposed (in practice, not in theory - but if it's not good in practice it must not be a good theory, right?).
  20. Forbin

    Forbin Do you feel fluffy, punk?

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    Whatever my opinions, changed or not, WF has given me perspectives from other countries and other philosophies that I value.

    Except Tasvir, of course.
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  22. Sokar

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    FTFY.
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  23. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Lessee, I've gone from Deist, to militant/activist Atheist, to "fuck it, nothing works".

    And I've gone from liberal, to almost-libertarian, to back to liberal, to "fuck it, nothing works".
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    Used to be dead against the AGW theory. But as time and science march on, it seems to hold more and more merit.

    I liked George W Bush at first (more because Algore would have been an absolute disaster of a President) but by the end of his eight years I was completely sick of him and his clueless bullshit.
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    I'm a little left of where I was five years ago, but I'm convinced I didn't so much move left left as everybody else moved right.
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  26. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    And I'll add, the rad-fem, post-modernist, poli-sci douchbags pushed me to the final position on both of those paths.

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  27. actormike

    actormike Okay, Connery...

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    I'm a little more centrist on economics. And while I still don't get gun culture, I've stopped thinking that what passes for gun control in this country is worth the effort.
  28. Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee

    Scott Hamilton Robert E Ron Paul Lee Straight Awesome

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    My biggest change, Gul, is in my perception of the war on drugs. I now see it as a waste of resources that hurts society more than it helps it.

    That isn't to say I support drug use. I guess I just support leaving idiots alone to themselves, since many drug users sort of burn out on their own and leave little of themselves behind to corrupt society.
  29. Amaris

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    I like them, too. :ramen:
  30. We Are Borg

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    Wow. That's a startlingly insightful comment coming from a half-brain such as yourself.

    Ah, there we go. :diacanu:
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