Gun buyback event back-fires. Oh the humanity!

you're slipping on your meds again you condescending old bag.

Volpone's the condescending old bag whose narrative I was citing.

You're spinning, as witness this:

Then disprove its initial premise, starting with the 1965 amendment. Feel free to intersperse your preset opinion with the occasional fact.

I'm sure "guns for felons program" and throwing around "hypocrisy" is a document that is above question.

That wasn't the premise. The premise is your ability to refute the article's assertion that the 1965 amendment to federal law created a loophole whereby felons can obtain guns. If you can't do so, that's not at all surprising.

Now recite your usual script.

You're probably the last person who should talk about others going through a script.

You're right. Because what I do is provide backup for my POV, so no script is necessary. What you do is name-call. Little hint: It doesn't make you look smart.

1) A backup which was proven did not say what you were saying it did.

2) A backup of highly questionable objectiveity.

Then both should be easy for you to refute. What's taking you so long?

We could solve EVERYTHING!

Ya know, seriously, it was the anti-gun liberals who started with the "you need a license to operate a car, you should need one for a gun" schtick. They started equating guns with cars. Don't go saying it's not valid when it's used by the other side too.

Truth be told though a gun is way, way easier to operate. Not too many 12 year olds I'd trust to drive me around in heavy traffic.
But a shit-ton of kids (myself included) could handle guns with no problem.

Which does apply to the thing about blind people too, actually. There are plenty of people who, for one reason or another, can't drive, but we don't forbid them from owning cars.

(Sorry if that was already said and I missed it...)

Don't take my word on it, please do watch the people making comments encouraging these sorts of things on the NRA's youtube channel.



In this video the NRA is offering up a suggestion that firearm ownership should be parallel to things like education and free speech. In here they suggest it would be a good thing to offer up government subsidies for firearms, giving everyone a firearm, and having mandatory firearm zones. As for a difference between violent and non-violent offenders there was not one made. I personally would go with a ban for all felons with a possibility of restoration of rights 10 years after the end of their sentence if they can prove they do not make the same mistakes that put them into crime in the first place. However, a person convicted of a felony has shown poor judgment and a proclivity to harm others or themselves through their own actions. People who have proven they make bad decisions which run contrary to the law and safety of the public should not be allowed to own a gun.

The second video has since been removed from NRA's youtube channel by the user. However, you can find it in full here.



The whole video is about making the point that blind people should be allowed to carry firearms. I guess even the NRA has run in fear of their commentators showing what a bunch of gun nuts they truly are. These are the sorts of crazy things that get responsible gun owners ticked off at the guntards of the world. No, I did not exaggerate the ideas and justifications offered up for these crazy ideas. While the NRA could be a force of gun safety and a proud organization of responsible and level headed gun owners they have gone down a road of the worst possible gun toting ideas, and are encouraging blatant dangerous behavior on the part of gun owners just to sell a few more guns. Do feel free to actually do some research for yourself before defending NRA gun nuts.
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Is Blind = Coke bottle glasses blind?[/quote]

It appears from the video blind is sightless as the guntard puts up the idea that a blind person has enhanced senses that would allow them to shoot properly, and that you would not need sight to hit an attacker you were touching. Since those people who have extremely deficient vision are not known to have pronounced alternate senses because they still process visual stimulus unlike truly blind people I will assume he is not referring to those who could put on glasses and get a better idea of what they were shooting at than a sightless person. I will also assume it was sightless as the crazy waas pulled from their site because it was so damned stupid.
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Is "insane" = someone who has had a non-violent and treated mental illness?[/quote]

Guns for everyone would seem to include everyone. Again, feel free to watch the crazy. What sort of mental illness are you talking about? Manic people should not own a gun. People who are schizophrenic and subject to things like MPD should not own a gun. People whop suffer from extreme depression should have guns kept out of their hands. People who are taking psychoactive medications for things like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_disorder

About the only thing I might see being considered a mental disorder that would not necessarily cause problems with owning a gun would be transexuality. But if it makes you feel any better the law could be specific as to what disorders would limit a person's ownership of a firearm. They normally have to make those specific restrictions in order to keep the law from being to vague and therefor making it unenforcable.

If you are referring to the NRA's guns for the blind video, and the NRA's guns for everyone video they are part of the NRA's youtube channel and the opinion writers are endorsed by the NRA. We can also note that one of those articles was pulled by the channel despite originally endorsing it which does show they do have some say as to what ideas they are endorsing and the effects those opinions would have on the larger group. Had it just been some troll guntard on the internet I am sure they would have kept the video up just for the fun of seeing libtards and gungrabbers, as they call them, freak out.

One should also note that a number of responsible and level headed gun owners endorse things like background checks and limitations on gun ownership, and have left the NRA due to it no longer reflecting their respect for firearm ownership and safety.

I've said this a few times: These days, the NRA is the 2nd amendments worst enemy...

What could go wrong?

The gun buy backs is one of the dumbest things conceived. It is a contrived event that doesn't work. It is an idea designed to make do nothing politicians look as if they are doing something meaningful.

Too bad it's not possible to exercise those rights in a safe and peaceful manner if you're blind.

Ableist bias? I think you've been hanging out on Tumblr too much.

I don't see what the number of blind gun owners has to do with it.

If by unilaterally null and void, you mean denying them a constitutional right on the grounds of safety, then sure. Most sane and rational people would put "not allowing blind people to own guns" at the same level as "yelling fire in a crowded theater" or "denying guns to the mentally ill," it's a common sense safety issue. There's plenty of precedent.

Whether you're blind from birth or suddenly blind, it doesn't really matter. You cannot aim a gun purely by listening without the aid of outside equipment, and even that doesn't give you the ability to differentiate targets. There's a reason the device we use to aim a gun is called a sight.

Nowhere did I say "NO RIGHTS FOR BLIND PEOPLE", take your strawman home, nor was I arguing in favor of removing due process. I'm only arguing that it should be against the law for blind people to have firearms, just like it's against the law for people that are mentally handicapped or mentally ill to have firearms in many states.

What if your hypothetical blind person was simply a collector of rare and historically interesting firearms? Still want to deny that person their Constitutional right to keep and bear arms?

I could ask the same about the mentally handicapped or mentally ill.

No, I would never insult the blind by comparing them to you. But no, being blind is not the equivalent of being mentally handicapped. That being said, both groups are examples of people who are not capable of exercising firearms rights safely, as it pertains to discharging and using them.