2016 Presidential Election Thread

You don't quite get it. If Hillary wins a random Secret Service agent will put a bullet through her head because she's a lying mega-bitch. He'll get away with it because Bill will give him an award for bravery, and then go bang some hot college chicks. Yesterday Obama met with the FBI director and there's a lot of speculation in both the left and right media that he wanted some updates on the case. A week or so ago Obama shot off his mouth and said the investigation wouldn't amount to anything, but not all FBI agents are Democrats, some are actually loyal Americans who pursue justice. Depending on how much control Obama has over the organs of government, and how much loyalty they show to someone who shows them none, this could get ugly.

Biden is only going to step in after Hillary is wiped off the map, because if he does so beforehand she'll destroy him. That's why her only Democratic opponents are basically retarded. They're the only ones stupid enough to challenge her.

She's been exonerated zero times.

She goes in front of Congress, bitches her lungs out, and everyone walks away saying "God, what a guilty bitch."

What she normally does, statistically, is make one or more of her aides the fall guy. They go to jail. Some of those seem to die in strange circumstances, and the case just ends. This has happened so often that no Democrat with an IQ above 100 dared challenge her for the nomination.

She's underwater on the "honorable and trustworthy" polling. Only with the help of the mainstream media lies about her Benghazi testimony has she even garnered 50 percent of the registered Democrat vote. That's all she'll get in the general, because too many Democrat opponents have seen her for what she is, including a large plurality of Obama voters. If you run her, it will make Reagan/Mondale look competitive in the electoral college.

She's a horrible speaker, a cackling witch, and she hasn't talked to the press in two weeks because she can't tolerate being questioned. If Marco Rubio is the nominee he'll focus in like a laser and destroy her. A few days ago Bill Moyers tried to defend Hillary and came out looking like a drooling idiot and partisan hack. The press will quickly throw in the towel or go the way of CNBC.

You still don't get it, possibly because you're disabled.

Hillary's own Secret Service agents despise her. Everyone around her despises her. even those in on the take. The military has bent over backward to show that it's subordinate to the civil power. As the generals say, "They pretend to control us and we pretend to be controlled." They sucked it up under Obama, who can at least appear somewhat personable and popular. With Hillary, all bets are off. She's so insulting that somebody in a position of trust will shoot her, or perhaps just choke the living shit out of her and punch her face into a bloody mess. Her own campaign staff is telling horror stories about an abusive, power-mad bitch and how she treats them all like sub-human pieces of crap.

I'm sorry, but if she thinks those that serve her and are sworn to give their life for her are subhuman pieces of crap, then I'll be damned if she'll tell me a damn thing. She's a worthless whore who should get stuffed into a trash can by a bouncer.

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So you have absolutely no reply.

Perhaps Hillary will have you put down as a disabled person who's a burden on Obamacare. If she does, all the Hillary backers will pump their fists and talk about how smart and brave she is for confronting "tough issues". And indeed, why should she care more for you than the tens of thousands of Arabs who've drowned or been butchered thanks to her brilliant policies that would profit Sidney Blumenthal, but bankrupt every else who's not in her inner circle?

By the way, the suggestion that the Benghazi attack was the result of a video came from Sidney Blumenthal, who'd been e-mailing her about potentially lucrative security contracts for the firm he controlled. His is the first mention anywhere in government documents that Benghazi was not a terrorist attack, because if it was then his security firm wouldn't stand to make hundred of millions of dollars, a lot of which could be given to Hillary.

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Do you have a list?

Abandon Ship!!!!!

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/jeb-bush-christine-ciccone-campaign-coo-out

Well, for starters there's James and Susan McDougal, who went to jail for Whitewater, along with Jim Tucker, David Hale, and Eugene Fitzhugh. Ron Brown, who was raking in money for them by selling access to China, died in a plane crash. Vince Foster died during the travelgate investigation, while fired White House travel office director Billy Dale was audited for years after he was cleared of all the false charges Hillary had slapped him with so her friends could run the travel office (a lucrative position if someone is willing to commit massive fraud).

Another fall guy was Craig Livingstone, who Hillary hired to run White House personnel security despite his lack of objective qualifications. For some reason he got the FBI files on Billy Dale, and then got FBI files on hundreds of Hillary's potential enemies. The FBI director said it was a egregious violation of policy. But Hillary skated on that one, too.

Then there's Robert Bone, who had to pay the largest fine in the history of cattle future's trading for somehow turning a $1,000 investment by Hillary into $100,000 by robbing other people's accounts. There's Norman Hsu who went to jail for 24 years for manipulating the political system (Hillary) in an investment pyramid scheme, donating an undisclosed amount of the proceeds to her.

And there are many dozens more, from Charlie Trie to Bernard Nussbaum, who lied to Congress in the Rose Law Firm billing records investigation. Hillary lied her way out of that one, too, even though her fingerprints (literally) were on all the documents. Also resigning amidst charges of lying to Congress in that investigation were the deputy treasury secretary and a treasury counsel.

Everyone has to fall on their swords for Hillary, or just kill themselves.

It's really looking like Trump v Clinton. Either way, it's going to be a worse presidency than Obama and a really bad four years. I see another civil war coming in my lifetime. Probably sooner than later.

A bad four years I can understand, but why in the world would you suggest another civil war? Civil War in the U.S. was originally fueled by extreme sectionalism in the United States (based on the issue of slavery).

Sectionalism in the U.S. today is largely a non issue.

Sectionalism isn't quite gone, but the new dividing line will be between the NRA and the hippies. It will be a very short war, probably occurring sometime between lunch and dinner, but the hippies will whine about it for decades and Ken Burns will make a fifty hour documentary.

Bud Nelson: "So Fred said, 'It's war!!! Grab your gun and defend the Republic!' So I grabbed my gun, ran out the door, shot two wastes of oxygen in the ass, and then Fred hollered 'Hey, stop! The war is over! They surrendered!' Fuck! I didn't even have time to reload!"​

It is a bad sign but then again maybe she was upset that her pay went from $12,0000 a month to $7000 a month.

Why would you say something stupid like that? Yeah the Secret Service hates Hillary (and Bill) Clinton because they've always treated them like crap.

But in the U.S. presidential bodyguards don't assassinate our leaders.

This isn't India.

The nutwhacks said that about an Obama administration too.

What space drugs is gturner taking? I can't imagine a drug that puts a person so out of touch with reality.

Yeah, I wouldn't care for a Hilldog presidency but there's plenty to disagree with her on policy issues without going into this conspiracy stuff.

It's not conspiracy stuff. Dozens and dozens of people close to her went to federal prison for doing things that would only benefit her, not them. Why is that?

Number of First Ladies who have ever testified before Congress in a criminal investigation? Only one in all of American history - Hillary. And she had to do it over and over again, and is still doing it.

If it's a conspiracy, why does Hillary spend so much time testifying before Congressional committees that are investigating her for crimes? Note that no other First Ladies have ever had to do that. Heck, not even other Secretary of States have had to do that.

It's not a conspiracy, you bone-headed freak. But you're nevertheless most assuredly suffering from all the usual conspiracy-theory-delusions.

Because the clowns who run these investigations, like you, are paranoid assholes desperately looking for wrong-doing that doesn't exist, in the futile hope of neutralizing a threat that only exists in their deluded little minds.

No, she's always having to testify because she keeps committing crimes and covering up the evidence. It took FBI investigators two years to find her Whitewater files, and those were in the White House. It also took them a two years to find her documents relating to the Travel Office scandal, which she was of course the center of. It's now over three years since Benghazi and she still hasn't released all her e-mails.

If it was the fault of the investigators then why hasn't Michelle Obama been dragged before Congressional committees investigating any criminal matters?

Congress never investigated Lady Bird Johnson, Pat Nixon, Betty Ford, Rosalynn Carter, Nancy Reagan, Barbara Bush, Laura Bush, Michelle Obama, or any other First Lady. Just Hillary, and Hillary has to testify so often on criminal investigations of her behavior that she probably has her own office on Capitol Hill, with a cot and a kitchenette.

Of course, in order to prove that Hilary's treatment isn't simply partisan whackery on behalf of the opposition, you'd have to prove that previous opposition parties have been anywhere near as batshit insane as the current GOP.

Good luck with that one.

I'm not sure you could find a jury with an IQ that low if you and Dayton fucked till doomsday. And invented mpreg outside fanfic.

As for Michelle, well they don't need a committee to make her look bad in front of the Republican base, do they? Them folk have eyeslits cut into the hoods, y'know?

Again, if the problem is that the GOP is bat shit insane, how come Michelle Obama hasn't had been the target of a single investigation?

Latest on Hillary

FBI examines handling of sensitive information during former secretary’s term

At least 671 emails she sent or received now contain classified information

State Department releases latest batch of Democratic presidential hopeful’s emails​

Every single on of those 671 e-mails is a felony, punishable by ten years in federal prison. If sentenced consecutively, that would be 6,710 years in jail.

And yes, Hillary claimed that none of her e-mails contained classified information - not a single one. Obviously that was yet another of her many lies. The current number is 671.

So why isn't she in jail? The article continues:

Attorneys who have handled classified information cases say the bureau, initially asked to examine whether Clinton’s arrangement compromised national security secrets, ultimately will have to consider whether she and her aides failed to sufficiently safeguard sensitive information.

They disagree about whether there’s enough evidence to prosecute her or her aides for sending and receiving government messages over the personal email system. routed through a private computer server in the basement of her New York home.

But most who spoke to McClatchy say it’s unlikely the former first lady, senator and Cabinet secretary will face charges because of her high profile and the hurdle to prove she knew the emails contained classified information when she sent them to others.

“She’s too big to jail,” said national security attorney Edward MacMahon Jr., who represented former CIA employee Jeffrey Sterling in 2011 in a leak case that led to an espionage prosecution and 3½-year prison term. He cited a pattern of light punishments for top government officials who have mishandled classified information while lower level whistleblowers such as Sterling have faced harsh prosecutions for revealing sensitive information to expose waste, fraud or abuse in government.​

Emphasis mine. She's above the law. That's not something you ever want in a politician. She's wildly corrupt, she lies constantly, she destroys people, and she cannot be held to account for any of her actions. Do we have a government of, by, and for the people, or are we to be ruled by an anointed class of untouchable criminals?

Ask Rove or Cheney.

As for Michelle, see my edit.

Rove and Cheney weren't above the law. Cheney put all his money in a blind trust and any increase in that trust was automatically donated to charity. Also note that Scooter Libby went to prison for a thousandth of what Hillary is accused of.

In contrast to Bush or Cheney, Bill and Hillary somehow, without having held a job in the private sector since the 1980's and claiming they were broke when they left the White House, amassed hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars. For doing what, exactly? Selling access? Changing US foreign policy to suit mega-donors? How did they get $2 BILLION in revenues when they had nothing when Bush was elected? That only happens in tinpot dictatorships, such as where the family of Mummar Kadaffi, Ferdinand Marcos, or Hugo Chavez end up with billions in offshore bank accounts. That's the mold Hillary is in. She is probably more corrupt than all other Democrats and Republicans combined at the local, state, and federal level.

Last I checked, Michelle isn't running for office. Hilldog has been campaigning pretty much since she and Bill left the White House (and even before that). Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe any other first lady has gone on to become a senator, cabinet member, nor run for president. Continuing to classify her as a first lady is pretty misogynistic considering she's made an entire political career since then. When you consider that there have been plenty of senators and cabinet members who have been part of federal investigations, that part of your already weak conspiracy theory unravels even more.

I don't think you've fully thought this through. Probably because of the space drugs.

I wish I could shoot a guy in the face and get away with it.

Because there was evidence he did it.

I can accuse you of all kinds of shit. You ain't going to jail unless there's evidence.

Unfortunately for you, that pig you fucked?

It squealed.

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