Brexit now leading by 10 points

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  1. Dinner

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    I saw the pictures and headline and decided it was so blantantly wrong in their claim that the "article" was a waste of my time. If they actually wanted people to read it then they wouldn't have dressed it up as blatant propaganda.
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    Oh I see what's happened here. I thought you were referring to the article he posted in post 231. My mistake.

    However, having seen what you're actually talking about, it's somehow even worse. Who could possibly defend the Daily Express and its non-stop stream of lies and more or less overt racism? For the uninitiated, here's a composite of every Daily Express headline ever: Britons outraged as EU Bureaucrats scupper Cure for Cancer and tell Immigrants they can bum Princess Diana while claiming benefits!
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    If you don't like it then don't read it. That is how the free market is supposed to work but whining about people being interested in issues you don't find interesting is just arrogant and dumb. Yes, that was basically what the picture in question was lamenting.
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    Sayeeda Warsi quits Leave campaign over 'hateful, xenophobic' tactics



    (source: Guardian)
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    Sayeeda Warsi is not a good Muslim and is already under threat of death from Muslims, who will probably kill her because she's not a good Muslim even though she supports wearing Burkhas and such.
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    Her push for double standards against Israel and her claim that everything is all the fault of the evil Jews already made it clear that she is an antisemite.

    The leave poster showing the flood of welfare migrants is indeed true so the lies try to deflect from that truth are just balderdash. Despite Merkel's claims that the way to prosperity is to invite in millions of hostile alien squaters to sign up for welfare for life... Well, no sane person ever believed that horse shit.
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    I don't like it; I don't read it. Though I do look at the headlines occasionally and wonder how anyone can swallow such obvious nonsense. Then I see people like you post, and it all becomes clear. The Daily Express tells lies, and as a result people come to believe these lies to be true. Calling them out on their lies and racism is part of free speech.
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    *Accuses someone of prejudice.

    * Goes on prejudiced rant.

    Self-awareness, what's that?
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    The fantasy is claiming that millions of peoe are secretly "raciat" because they care about fraud ans abuse against the taxpayers while you do not. When you grow up and realize calling other people silly nonsensical names does not an effective response make then we can have a meaningful discussion about the merits of stopping welfare fraud or not.
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    :lol: You are an idiot. Pointing out known facts is not nor ever will be prejudiced even if you do not like those known facts.

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    As ever, it's you and Deash facing off against 1.2 million other Muslims in a battle to define Islam.
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    Like gtardo even has a clue who Baroness Warsi is. :lol:
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    This post is very hard to understand, and not just because of how badly it is spelt, and looks like an attempt to not to actually say anything while appearing to reply.

    But yes, some people are secretly racist; others, like you, are overtly racist. Papers like the Daily Express (which you're clearly not familiar with, else you'd have got the references; though if you were British it would be right up your street) cater to both groups. Also 'welfare fraud' is about the least serious political problem in the UK, and is only considered an important issue because of lies told, repeatedly, over many years, by papers like the Daily Express.
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    Nor Dinner. He sees a Muslim name and starts shouting abuse while at the same time accusing her of being prejudiced.
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    I get so tired of ignorant people like you pretending Islamic terrorists aren't Islamic. In a scie tific poll in 2014 92% of the Saudi people agreed the Islamic State (IS) was Islamic and that their practices were in line with Islamic teachings.

    So screw you and your claims about a few bad apples when it is a systematic problem with the cult of Islam itself. Not that reality has ever mattered to you enablers, you'll keep denying the truth right up until they cut your head off for being an infidel.
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    No, it's Warsi facing off against all the UK Muslims who keep throwing eggs at her. Muslims in Pakistan would just kill her.
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    And that is what your side always resorts to. When faced with cold hard factd you claim the facts are racist and then try to lie and change the subject.

    People see through pathetic lies like yours and that is why we are seeing a rise of far right alternative parties. I don't even want to see the far right in power but the left is losing all credibility when they keep lying and pretend Islam has nothing to do with Islamic terrorism, that we must take in millions of economic migrants (most of whom aren't even from war zones) and have taxpayers pay everything for them for the rest of their lives, that they and their children are just going to have to put up with endless crime because elites want to feel less guilty (while the elites stay safe in rich areas without the muslim crimes attacking them).

    There is a good middle ground but none of the major existing parties are bothering to deliver it thus people will seek out anyone who promises to end the madness. It would be far better to change polices now and avoid the excesses of the far right but if the elites continue to ignore the problem that is exactly what we will eventually get.
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    You saying the word 'facts' ≠ facts. Indeed, it's usually the exact opposite.
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    Oh, I see you edited your post. I fail to see what that field of strawmen has to do with you accusing Baroness Warsi of prejudice and on the next line going on yet another prejudiced rant.
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    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...olz-eu-migrant-benefits-uk-deal-david-cameron

    That is an example of an actual decent middle ground solution which could work but which will never be allowed due to the stupidity and arrogance of the EU elites. Of course, they would still have to protect the EU's outer border and keep out all the fake asylum claimers and benefits fraudsters but that suggestion single handedly would have solved the biggest pro-Brexit issue yet instead the EU elites arrogantly refused to make any meaningful compromise with Cameron. Thus the current swing towards Brexit.

    It is a problem of the EU's own making due to the arrogance and i flexibility of the Brussels elites. The non-EU fraudsters just compound the problem.
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    His latest trick when he gets caught out.
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    What? How is something that Britain already does, and which the former mayor of Hamburg thinks other states ought to do, pushing people towards Brexit? Moreover, such measures apply to EU nationals, and thus won't affect refugees from other countries unless and until they gain citizenship.

    Did you even read the article? I honestly can't see your point here.
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    So what happens when these millions of Muslim refugees gain EU citizenship?
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    This is why it is so often a waste of time to talk to you. I post links to scientific opinion polls and articles which document the problems I mention then all you do is wave your hands and attempt to dismiss everything because it doesn't conform to how you wish the world would work. Have you brought any actual evidence to the table to refute the evidence I have provided? No. Have you brought a single coherent counter argument? Nope.

    You just babble a bunch of insults lie about other people's positions, and then try to change the subject. Look in the mirror, buddy, because you aren't bring much to the table other than a lot of :lalala:.
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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

    You haven't posted any evidence of anything. In fact, the only thing you've proved is that you don't read the articles you use to 'support' your 'points'.
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    He does read the articles. You just claim they don't say what they say.
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    Interesting. Even the few right-wing hate blogs that actually carry this statistic not only point out that it was unscientific and informal; one goes so far as to admitting that nobody seems to be able to come up with the original source at all.
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